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Round 3 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15542.msg199056#msg199056
« on: November 11, 2010, 10:28:57 pm »
Round 3 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting

Salvaging
3 Phoenix
3 Deflagration

6 Dimensional Shields

2 Purple Dragon
1 Abomination
1 Maxwell's Demon
1 Butterfly Effect
1 Entropy Pendulum

Discarding
6 Poison
3 Bone Wall
3 Plague
2 Arsenic
1 Hourglass
3 Sundials

6 Wing
2 Flying Weapon
3 Eternity
7 Time Factory

6 immolation
2 Deflagration
6 Deja Vu
3 Reverse Time
1 Time Factory

6 Dim Shields
1 Anubis
1 Eternity
1 Procrastination
6 Pendulums
3 Factories

4 Graboids
4 Earthquakes
2 Basilisk Bloods
6 Pendulums
2 Factories

Converting
1 holy light
1 blessing
4 arctic squids
1 chimera
1 plague
1 arsenic
1 bone wall
2 flying weapons

Into: 2 Time Factories & 10 Time Pendulums

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Re: Round 3 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15542.msg199074#msg199074
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2010, 10:59:00 pm »
senabmi: subbed win, no salvage

Salvage 6

edunavas
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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vd 4ve 4vf 4vf 4vi 4vl 4vl 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vo 50u 5od 5od 5of 5of 5og 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu
Discard 18

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52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52p 52p 52p 52q 52q 52r 52r 52r 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rl 5rl 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2
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Re: Round 3 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15542.msg200108#msg200108
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2010, 08:37:07 am »
Edit: Oh nevermind I just found out balthazar subbed for me.

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Re: Round 3 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15542.msg200325#msg200325
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2010, 05:18:16 pm »
I have a feeling we're going to need to do some more converting this round.

So taking a cursory look, I think we're going to have to discard:
All 14 death cards, 2 Hourglasses, and 2 Pendulum
All 8 air cards, 2 Eternity, 4 Time Factory, 4 Pendulum
6 Immolation, 3 Deflag, 2 Golems 6 Deja Vu, 1 RT
All 9 Aether cards, 1 Anubis, 1 Procrastination, 3 Devonian Dragon, 2 Factory, 2 Pendulum
All 10 Earth cards, 4 Factory, 4 Pendulum

Salvage:
3 Phoenix, 2 Rage Potion, 1 Deflag
6 Dimensional Shields
2 Amethyst Dragon, 1 Abomination , 1 Maxwell's Demon, 1 Butterfly Effect, 1 Chaos Seed

Convert:
1 Plague, 1 Bone  Wall, 1 Arsenic, 1 Holy Light, 1 Blessing, 2 Lobos, 4 Arctic Squid, 1 Chimera


That'd leave us with:
6 Lightning, 6 Dim Shields, 3 Quintessence, 6 Fractal
1 Fog Shield, 4 FW, 4 Air Pendulum
4 Black Dragon, 6 Devourers, 2 Dusk Mantles, 4 Steals, 2 Stilettos
4 Stone Pillars, 2 Titanium Shields, 4 Graboids, 6 EAs, 5 EQs, 4 BBs
3 Maxwell's, 1 Abomination, 2 Purple Dragons, 2 Lycans, 1 Chaos Seed, 6 Novas, 6 Antimatter, 1 BE, 6 Discord
4 Deflags, 3 RoFs, 8 RPs, 7 Phoenixes
6 Momentum, 6 BHs, 1 Chimera, 4 Gravity Pendulums
4 Freeze, 6 Purify, 4 Arctic Squids, 5 Toadfishes
32 Factories, 41 Pendulums, 6 Deja Vus, 4 Procrastinations, 11 RTs, 1 Hourglass, 15 Dragons, 5 Anubis, 12 Sundials, 6 Scarabs, 12 Precogs, 5 Pharaohs, 3 Dune Scorpions, 6 Eternities, (+12 Factories/Pendulums from conversion)

So we could make:
Dim Shield Stall
Fractal Scarab/Deja Vu
Dragons+Lightnings
Darkness Duo
Earth Duo
2 Entropy Duos
2 Fire Duos
Dragons+Momentum
Water Duo

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Re: Round 3 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15542.msg200595#msg200595
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2010, 10:19:36 pm »
Ok, we are facing 3 death opponents this round, so we need to keep that in mind. Pharaoh and fractal decks could be used against Bonewalls, eventually some kind of momentum deck, or poison deck (though they would probably be better at poison). Because of poison, we have to either rush, or take purifys, and we have to counter simple mummy/spider rushes as well.
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Re: Round 3 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15542.msg200692#msg200692
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2010, 11:56:02 pm »
I think the 2 Fire Duos could be used against our 2 Air matches.  Phoenixes are CC resistant and Deflags will help against haxx shield and OEs.

Fractal Scarabs seem like a good deck against Death.  We could use the Water Duo (Toadfishes) with Purifies too.  And then maybe some kind of Pharaoh deck or Dragon+Momentum deck.

Against Aether we could use our Entropy Duo with Novas.  Pack a couple Deflags just in case of Dim Shields, but if we're lucky, Discord will keep the Aether quanta scrambled.

With Water we could use the same Earth Duo again I suppose, but maybe with RTs instead of BBs and/or more Eternities just in case they use that Adrena-deck again.

Darkness is gonna be tough.  Not quite sure what to do here.  We could try to hold onto 12 Death cards and make a Poison deck with maybe Precogs instead of Sundials.  Or we can try to go with an Entropy Duo with Novas (helps against a stolen Discord).

Unfortunately that doesn't leave many options for Gravity.  This would be the second round in a row that Xinef had to take the leftovers.  :(


Edit:
We also have that PA/Dim Shield deck we can try on someone, though probably not Gravity.

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Re: Round 3 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15542.msg200818#msg200818
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2010, 04:34:16 am »
Puts these informations on Round 4 Strategy

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Re: Round 3 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15542.msg202961#msg202961
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2010, 03:56:05 pm »
2 Amethyst Dragon ?? I guess you meant purple dragons. I edited the valut.

 

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