Round 4

[TheonlyrealBeef]

New round is not up still, but doesn't hurt thinking about new decks, discards, spoils etc.
Let's start with listing the decks and some of my thought about them:

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By discarding all time cards, 1 Lycanthrope, 1 Arsenic and 1 Fog shield we can keep the deck alive. I know these are nice rainbow splashes but can't really spare deflag (one of the reasons it lost in the first place was not having enough in vault for 2), can replace arsenic + lycan with Vampire Dagger, Fog Shield with Lightning and throw in something else (Explo/Frog). We can transmute back the Eggs since they are our only 3. RTs are lost but we averaged about 8 RTs per round so far (out of 15)

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If we salvage all the Darkness cards we can both field another Ghostmare and possible keep a Steal for splashing into a bow (upgraded) rest looks good for transmutation and conversion imo.

Spoils: I suggest 3 nightmares, 2 steals 1 Vampire Dagger. It's barely enough to call it a ghostmare.

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5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 61t 61t 622 622 622 7ta 7td 7td 80d 80d 80i 8pu

Both dims and fractals are good, and we could salvage devs just in case we find some nice darkness cards to go with them, but they won't serve any immediate use.

Spoils: 2 Dimensional Shield, 4 Fractals

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52g 52r 52r 52r 52r 52r 542 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 713 713 713 8pk

Lightnings are awesome for splashing into just about everything that can play them and we can use BWs for our pdials. we could even salvage 1 spider to splash into rainbows, but meh. Convert and transmute! (we need our marks/Nymphs back <3) Oh, keep fractals ofc.

Spoils: 2 Lightnings rest time cards

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By salvaging 3 Hope, 5 Photon, 1 Light Dragon, 1 Aether Pend and 4 fractals from somewhere we can build RoL Hope:

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Unless we need rest for transmutes/conversion some spare aether pillars/pends for future aether duos could be nice (Dim deck that don give a damn about eqs).

Spoils: Time cards

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5bs 5bs 5bs 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 622 624 624 624 624 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 80i 80i 80i 8pu

Frogs, fractals and silences are all yummy, just transmute/convert the rest.

Spoils: 1 Silence, rest Time cards

For time cards from spoils (15) I'm thinking 6 Sundials, 5 Time factories, 4 Time Pendulum.

I think it's fair to say we can transmute the maximum amount of cards from each deck: 10 cards total of which I would recommend:

• 3 Fate Eggs
• 1 Deja Vu for TLS
• 2 Procrastination for 4 total
• 1 Marks of Time for 5 total
• 2 Pharaohs for 6 total
• 1 Golden Nymph for 6 total

Also probably convert to max (haven't ran all the numbers yet) for both a nice buffer as well as getting rid of useless pillars/pends from other elements.

[PlayerOa]

With salvage we can create several new deck "archetypes":

Frogs:

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Lightning Splash

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PDials w/ BW

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[TheonlyrealBeef]

With salvage we can create several new deck "archetypes":

Frogs:

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5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rk 5rk 5ru 5ru 5ru 5ru 5ru 5ru 5s4 5s4 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 8pn

Lightning Splash

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PDials w/ BW

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Since I was bored, there's nothing else to do for war and I couldn't sleep I got to thinking about these specific decks and I'm thinking:

• Froggie deck doesn't seem to actually add anything to our current decks (most specifically mono time, since frogs don't fly, devonians do, and something with Graboids is probably faster), is inconsistent (compared to a mono in quanta, pillar/pend split makes it even worse) and needs 6 upgrades to even have a chance at being faster, not my favorite :p
• Lightning Splash: Same story about consistency and I think it has far too many pendulums compared to pillars. Even 2-3 might be enough.
• PDials with BW seems good enough, except again consistency. I strongly suggest not putting that death pend in there but maybe a time pend, perhaps making a factory a pend, too, if you're concerned about the amount of generation. This deck can survive a 1 pillar draw with rest death cards but 1 death pend draw with rest time cards = gg (and you have to keep in mind: with the current number of quanta generators 1 pillar/pend draws are all but unlikely).

[Dm]

My opinion isn't worth much but I need to say that I -really- like the idea of lightning splash. Although I'd personally prefer something more silence-like (could help the over-all rush more IMO?)

[PlayerOa]

Round is up - we'll be facing , , , , and - and we can use 9 upgrades in the matches between , and .

Some very sudden and immediate thoughts on decks:

- Ghostmare could keep up with Jenks fav deck to play this war - UGNymphs.

- Ghostal (6 dim version?) can beat most of their decks (I don't see them play yet another pandebonium) which is not PC-flooded. Ghostmare #2 is another possibility. Or PDials. I just hope they won't play the DBHbow versus PDials.

- We've played two stallish decks versus them. Not sure if they are expecting us to keep that streak or change things up. RoL/Hope could do good if not for Psions. Unsure.

- Pharaohbow should be fine, I'm predicting a mono or some death dominon.

- TLS could and should win.

- Grabbow should do a fine job - packed with PC cards.

[Dm]

I'm just gonna post that the most common thing we could expect from Gravity is anything with Catapult. So that "packed with PC cards" should be "Packed" as in extremely packed, since the most common counter gravity has to Time is Catapult (due to RT pretty much majorly screwing everything else they have.)

Alternatively they could also decide to eff that strategy up by running something like a fractal guard or fractal charger. Depends.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Round is up - we'll be facing , , , , and - and we can use 9 upgrades in the matches between , and .

Some very sudden and immediate thoughts on decks:

- Ghostmare could keep up with Jenks fav deck to play this war - UGNymphs.

- Ghostal (6 dim version?) can beat most of their decks (I don't see them play yet another pandebonium) which is not PC-flooded. Ghostmare #2 is another possibility.

- We've played two stallish decks versus them. Not sure if they are expecting us to keep that streak or change things up. RoL/Hope could do good if not for Psions. Unsure.

- Pharaohbow should be fine, I'm predicting a mono or some death dominon.

- TLS could and should win.

- Grabbow should do a fine job - packed with PC cards.

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Spoiler for Grabow:

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Spoiler for RoL Hope:

Psions you say? NP. Eternity + Reflective will keep them at bay. Only a combination with Recluses is enough to be annoying, but still: we will hopefully be able to outrush that. Main concern is Devtal, better outquanta that with a lucky draw... can't counter everything

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Spoiler for TLS:

With Deja VU to allow full consistency for RoL Hope. I see no reason to add reflectives in this matchup nor an excessive amount of Eternities.

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No, not Ghostal most likely, but:

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Spoiler for Pharaohbow:

I didn't know we had 5 Deflags in vault :x I'm thinking this deck could use lt best so here goes:

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I haven't cross-checked the possibility of every card but I think this should be possible.

I'm just gonna post that the most common thing we could expect from Gravity is anything with Catapult. So that "packed with PC cards" should be "Packed" as in extremely packed, since the most common counter gravity has to Time is Catapult (due to RT pretty much majorly screwing everything else they have.)

Alternatively they could also decide to eff that strategy up by running something like a fractal guard or fractal charger. Depends.

Hope you like the 3 I put in there :p