Round 1 - Decks

[Olidot]

I think PA will be mine and Xinef's best friend.
So, perhaps a / denial?
EQs to deny, Eternity to RT, and PA to protect.
Graboids for offence, obviously.
Now I just need a build .

Maybe this:

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with some PAs?

[Xinef]

@bojengles77

You can always replace some precogs with time pillars. As for the 6 burrowed pests, you can always try to play a phoenix or 2 and kill his other creatures. By the time he digs through his whole deck you might have some opportunities to counter him.

@Flying Farenheit

I'm not sure if it's better to split 3 PA between our decks and both go , or should I try some other tactic like devourers to make his graboids unable to evolve. The first is risky in case you don't draw PA early, the latter if he does not take graboids...

Ok, as long as our decks have ample pillars to risk losing some early, I guess the 3-3 PA might be better...

[Xinef]

It seems most people (in "Phase 3 - ROUND 1 MATCHES" thread) believe that Kuro will win
They seem to give us high chances in many of these battles, but I'm surprised most of they think bojengles77 or Belthazar666 would lose, even though I think the opposite

As for Rozpierdalator, I've tried playing against him with life decks against the phase shield+sundial stall and my conclusion is that he should win IF Gl1tch does not take deflags, momentum or something similar and IF Gl1tch decides to play a 30 card deck.

I don't know if Gl1tch expects a stall deck, but I'd be surprised if he used a deck larger than 30 cards. I guess he is not going to use momentum, bolts or anything similar (due to low synergy with life) and I'm almost certain he is not going to use Eternity
What I'm afraid is that he might eg. splash fire and take deflags (hoping to destroy eternity, procrastination, hourglasses etc.)

So, from my observations, if Gl1tch does not take deflags, Rozpierdalator wins.
If he does, Rozpierdalator... wins, if we can somehow make that he deals 100 damage before Gl1tch has a field full of adrenalined frogs and a deflag in hand.

The question is, what can we do to make it possible to deal 100 damage. The original deck had 3 deja vu, mostly to have something to bump in case opponent has >30 cards. It can also deal a nice amount of damage with eternity during those 23 turns of stall. It can usually deal around 70 damage before opponent decks out. If Gl1tch takes deflags, I guess he won't take bonds hoping to make a fast deck that breaks stall. So, I decided to replace 2 deja vu and eternity with 2 dragons and 1 pillar for something like this:

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Now, it stands a chance even if Gl1tch has a few deflags. The question is, can you suggest any other improvements? (Or another good deck we could use against Gl1tch ?)

[Xinef]

Attention, warriors!

I updated first post with the decks I think we will use. If anyone has any ideas, shoot! Please test these decks and try to find any ways to improve/tweak them.

For Kuro, I decided we could try that deck. It works wonderfully without permanents (so there is nothing to steal) and is heavy enough on pillars to withstand a few devourers. It might cause problems with playing blessings, but with 3 elements there is (probably) a 1/3 chance for them to drain so you should be able to play at least one blessing, which gives 18 damage / turn (2 x 4+3+2)

From my tests it seems very fast against AI3, but it could be a bit slower against devourers... still might work. What do you think?



EDIT:
And Flying Farenheit's deck should probably have dragons instead of pharaohs... a single titanium shield and it's screwed.

EDIT2:
I'll add some tips for these decks tomorrow, but for now 2 things I remember:
-With the lightning deck, remember you can use some lightnings for a finisher if you haven't used them on creatures yet.
-With the PA deck, you will be able to use PA on your third turn. You might eg. play a single time factory during these turns. If he uses an EQ on that single factory, he used 3 so he will probably play his graboids/whatever one turn later. If he does not, you have 2 more than you would have if you played no factories at all. On the other hand, playing more than one could be risky... you'll probably know if he has any earthquakes after the first battle... (try to examine his hand, does he have any cards he keeps in his hand and is unable to play?)

[Kuroaitou]

Attention, warriors!

I updated first post with the decks I think we will use. If anyone has any ideas, shoot! Please test these decks and try to find any ways to improve/tweak them.

For Kuro, I decided we could try that deck. It works wonderfully without permanents (so there is nothing to steal) and is heavy enough on pillars to withstand a few devourers. It might cause problems with playing blessings, but with 3 elements there is (probably) a 1/3 chance for them to drain so you should be able to play at least one blessing, which gives 18 damage / turn (2 x 4+3+2)

From my tests it seems very fast against AI3, but it could be a bit slower against devourers... still might work. What do you think?

I'm a little bit scared about him playing a full-fledged mono- (Troh) against my trio deck, which would either cause blessings, adrenaline, or Deja Vu's unplayable, or worse - he'll splash in his element, causing major amounts of death to my creatures if he has a spare plague or virus on his hands.

Then again, if he doesn't use shields, and if my hand is fast enough to bring out the creatures, I should be able to take it on. I need to test it out in the trainer to see how useful it is, but it seems solid.

Good job on bojengles' and Belthazar's decks (no permanents besides pillars = nothing to steal or destroy against / ), and it's a good thing we included those EA's on the first round. Hopefully, both you and Flying will win against and take away their EA/earthquakes/permanent controllers, so that we can make even stronger decks against fire and earth, but if we don't, then maybe we'll find some of those cards from the other competitors.

Anyway, great job Xinef. I can't believe the next phase will start within the next day. O.o

[Xinef]

I'm a little bit scared about him playing a full-fledged mono- (Troh) against my trio deck, which would either cause blessings, adrenaline, or Deja Vu's unplayable, or worse - he'll splash in his element, causing major amounts of death to my creatures if he has a spare plague or virus on his hands.

Thx.

Against mono darkness, only blessings could be unplayable, and only if he plays a number of devourers early. I mean, you have 14 pillars, and he has to draw these devourers, play them (it takes a turn or two with pillars only, especially if you have less pillars because you have 6 devourers) and by that time you could already have 3 and a lot of other quanta.

As for splashing death... who uses unupgraded viruses? I mean, it's one of the least useful death cards. Plagues... he might use them if he expects a deja vu deck, but if you were him, would you expect a deja vu deck? I wouldn't. By the way time is the only element capable of removing creature poison (with rewind, of course it does not work on 1 hp deja vu ), but still if I were to fight an 'unknown' time deck, I wouldn't rely on creature poison. Player poison, that's much better because it beats stall.

[Olidot]

Thx for making a deck while I was gone.
Much appreciated.

[bojengles77]

I'm playing Miniwally in 45 minutes, wish me luck!

[bojengles77]

damn, xinef, just saw you lost to Didonko. No worries, we always have next round!

[Xinef]

Seems news spread quite fast

Gód lók bojengles77!

[bojengles77]

ok I lost, he played a perfect counter deck... otyughs!  first match, his dusk put out about 90% block or i would've had him. he was at 30 damage for like 3 turns when i had 3 phoenixes and a 11/7 golem. Then second match it took 4 turns to get a pillar, so i really had no chance from the getgo. sigh....

[bojengles77]

Seems news spread quite fast

Gód lók bojengles77!

I was in chat, you should join us there sometime!