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Re: Three-Man Team PvP #6 - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53624.msg1124658#msg1124658
« Reply #48 on: February 03, 2014, 10:49:43 pm »
Yes or a specific combination, or a specific deck and if I were to change something I would so

- You may not use the same combination of elements more than one in a match.

However allowing mono as in WC
I was saying I think you meant one in the end when you said "I do not like to see a Bo5 deck winning by only A deck."
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Re: Three-Man Team PvP #6 - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53624.msg1124661#msg1124661
« Reply #49 on: February 03, 2014, 11:09:56 pm »

I'd personally like to see either of two changes: remove the rule or allow 3 uses of the same combination per match.

Either way, we need more feedback on this. A poll would be the most accurate way of gauging opinions.
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Yes or a specific combination, or a specific deck and if I were to change something I would so

- You may not use the same combination of elements more than one in a match.

However allowing mono as in WC
I was saying I think you meant one in the end when you said "I do not like to see a Bo5 deck winning by only A deck."
I'm confused for example "more than twice in a match"
is the same thing "more than twice in one match" ?
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Re: Three-Man Team PvP #6 - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53624.msg1124664#msg1124664
« Reply #50 on: February 03, 2014, 11:23:41 pm »
Yes, since a match means all the games/rounds you need to finish. In other words, a match is a best of 5 here. In tournaments and Leagues, a match is a best of 3.
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Re: Three-Man Team PvP #6 - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53624.msg1124719#msg1124719
« Reply #51 on: February 04, 2014, 06:59:34 pm »
 I cannot see problems a BO5 be played with limitation 2x the same combination and 3 elements  available , I agree that is a little tight, but prevents a hard counter dominant deck to win alone.

 I have doubts here

You may use Pillars, Pendulums, Mark Cards, and Marks that don't match your 3 elements (they don't count as using the element)

for example, my elements to duel are  :fire :water :air
the decks 1 and 3 are considered mono? or legal?
if I use the deck 2 and after 2 again, I can still use the deck 4?
if I use the deck 1 and after 3, I can still use the deck 5?

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Re: Three-Man Team PvP #6 - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53624.msg1124727#msg1124727
« Reply #52 on: February 04, 2014, 07:43:06 pm »
If I understood the rules right you are only using :water from the element pool (and for the purposes of element combinations), but they still obey the 2/3 rule.
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Re: Three-Man Team PvP #6 - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53624.msg1124733#msg1124733
« Reply #53 on: February 04, 2014, 08:00:44 pm »
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I cannot see problems a BO5 be played with limitation 2x the same combination and 3 elements  available , I agree that is a little tight, but prevents a hard counter dominant deck to win alone.

 I have doubts here

You may use Pillars, Pendulums, Mark Cards, and Marks that don't match your 3 elements (they don't count as using the element)

for example, my elements to duel are  :fire :water :air
the decks 1 and 3 are considered mono? or legal?
if I use the deck 2 and after 2 again, I can still use the deck 4?
if I use the deck 1 and after 3, I can still use the deck 5?

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Re: Three-Man Team PvP #6 - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53624.msg1124743#msg1124743
« Reply #54 on: February 04, 2014, 09:20:18 pm »
Ok, so its not only the pillar pends marks and mark cards that arnt in your battle elements that are considered not using the element, but even the quanta generating cards of your battle elements arn't considered your element.
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Re: Three-Man Team PvP #6 - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53624.msg1124746#msg1124746
« Reply #55 on: February 04, 2014, 09:40:23 pm »
on top of that, duo's and trio's are required, under the new pillar/pendulum exclusion rules, despite the rules being phrased like that's just implied by the 2/3rd rule. (which is isn't, if pillars/pendulums don't count as in element).
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Re: Three-Man Team PvP #6 - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53624.msg1124748#msg1124748
« Reply #56 on: February 04, 2014, 09:46:02 pm »
 Okay, so will be considered duo or trio only if you have 1 card of each element of the duel
 I expected that the decks 1,3,5 were illegal but the 2 and 4 was surprise, is too weird,  pillars\pendulums in elements to be considered off, and just put a card in element validates all the pillars/pendulums in elements.

but ok I understood now, thanks.
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Re: Three-Man Team PvP #6 - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53624.msg1124846#msg1124846
« Reply #57 on: February 05, 2014, 07:17:30 pm »
So is this a legal deck? Or illegal because the pillars/pends dont count as in element?
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Re: Three-Man Team PvP #6 - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53624.msg1124852#msg1124852
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If my elements are  :fire :air
this decks is legal, is duo?
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Re: Three-Man Team PvP #6 - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53624.msg1124856#msg1124856
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Vangelios, the deck you posted is illegal.
Because the max amount of cards from 1 element in a 30-card deck must be 20. Your deck has 29.
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