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Re: Three-man Team PvP https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11994.msg158478#msg158478
« Reply #312 on: September 14, 2010, 05:56:41 pm »
Here's the way I see it:

- The second was IMHO a desync. I had a clear win on my side but he had a win on his. However, he and his team-mate refused to admit that it could be a tie and redo the game. I was called a liar and everything ... OK, I gave it to him 1:1.
it were no desyncs because you kept pming me even in the last turns were i killed you....
anyways gg
It seems that he only gave you the win because you and Raving intimidated him into it. The game was definitely a desync; however, neither of you knew that messaging the opponent still works in a desync. I'm not saying yall intentionally intimidated him into it. I understand that since yall weren't aware of the message/desync issue, you both logically concluded that he must be lying. The fair thing to do in this situation is have you replay the second game, using the same decks and marks. I will give yall two days from now to make up the game, since I know yall have difficulties finding each other.

I apologize to everyone else for any delays this causes, but this is, in my mind, the fairest way to do things.

Two days from now is September 16 18:00 GMT.

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Re: Three-man Team PvP https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11994.msg158487#msg158487
« Reply #313 on: September 14, 2010, 06:07:15 pm »
Here's the way I see it:

- The second was IMHO a desync. I had a clear win on my side but he had a win on his. However, he and his team-mate refused to admit that it could be a tie and redo the game. I was called a liar and everything ... OK, I gave it to him 1:1.
it were no desyncs because you kept pming me even in the last turns were i killed you....
anyways gg
It seems that he only gave you the win because you and Raving intimidated him into it. The game was definitely a desync; however, neither of you knew that messaging the opponent still works in a desync. I'm not saying yall intentionally intimidated him into it. I understand that since yall weren't aware of the message/desync issue, you both logically concluded that he must be lying. The fair thing to do in this situation is have you replay the second game, using the same decks and marks. I will give yall two days from now to make up the game, since I know yall have difficulties finding each other.

I apologize to everyone else for any delays this causes, but this is, in my mind, the fairest way to do things.

Two days from now is September 16 18:00 GMT.
Demagog, the game was neither a desync or a time out.
Have you read my MSN quote?

Snoweb had no chance to survive, then, after two minutes, said he was still playing.
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Re: Three-man Team PvP https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11994.msg158508#msg158508
« Reply #314 on: September 14, 2010, 06:34:28 pm »
he said he gave me the win (quoted that so that's proved).
Yes, we've been through that. The issue now is about the match having a desync, and thus needs to be replayed.

Snoweb had no chance to survive, then, after two minutes, said he was still playing.
A good sign you saw different playfields.

In any case, there's not much we can argue for here, since no one has any proof of desync or lack of desync. That's why Demagog has made his decision, and it's the most rational way to go.
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Re: Three-man Team PvP https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11994.msg158513#msg158513
« Reply #315 on: September 14, 2010, 06:44:34 pm »
Please just replay this game and move on.  According to the rules if you can't agree it is a desync.  The only evidence I have ever known to be accepted that it wasn't is screenshots.  You disagree, no screen shots, replay.

My team has been waiting a long time to play our second match in this tournament and I'm pretty sure jamiejones hasn't even played once yet.  I don't know about the rest of the people that are waiting for the result of this match to be able to play their next one, but I for one would just like to see you replay and everyone can move on to play the next rounds of the tournament.

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Re: Three-man Team PvP https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11994.msg158517#msg158517
« Reply #316 on: September 14, 2010, 06:53:58 pm »
he said he gave me the win (quoted that so that's proved).
Yes, we've been through that. The issue now is about the match having a desync, and thus needs to be replayed.

Snoweb had no chance to survive, then, after two minutes, said he was still playing.
A good sign you saw different playfields.

In any case, there's not much we can argue for here, since no one has any proof of desync or lack of desync. That's why Demagog has made his decision, and it's the most rational way to go.
The point is that not even a desync could save him.
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Re: Three-man Team PvP https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11994.msg158525#msg158525
« Reply #317 on: September 14, 2010, 07:06:12 pm »
You don't have proof of that. There's no way to know when the desync occurred. If both players claim victory, it must have happened early enough to make a difference.

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Re: Three-man Team PvP https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11994.msg158531#msg158531
« Reply #318 on: September 14, 2010, 07:11:21 pm »
You don't have proof of that. There's no way to know when the desync occurred. If both players claim victory, it must have happened early enough to make a difference.
Since a desync requires a ! sign, and Snoweb NEVER told nilsie, I suppose it was made at a point where game was decided.

(this means that it happened after nils killed him, which means nils won).


(neither we had a proof that a desync happened).
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Re: Three-man Team PvP https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11994.msg158555#msg158555
« Reply #319 on: September 14, 2010, 07:36:08 pm »
You don't have proof of that. There's no way to know when the desync occurred. If both players claim victory, it must have happened early enough to make a difference.
Since a desync requires a ! sign, and Snoweb NEVER told nilsie, I suppose it was made at a point where game was decided.

(this means that it happened after nils killed him, which means nils won).


(neither we had a proof that a desync happened).
that's true the conversation was there,there wasn't a desync/time out and no sign and even when i said when i got my second vapmire with adrealine: i think this game is mine. he said yes i'm scared of that to!!!
he also gave me win i quoted that from the chat.
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Re: Three-man Team PvP https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11994.msg158787#msg158787
« Reply #320 on: September 15, 2010, 01:08:25 am »
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Re: Three-man Team PvP https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11994.msg158800#msg158800
« Reply #321 on: September 15, 2010, 01:35:38 am »
Team Omega! moves on.   :)

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Re: Three-man Team PvP https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11994.msg158840#msg158840
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kevkev60614 2 - ddevans96 0

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Re: Three-man Team PvP https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11994.msg158856#msg158856
« Reply #323 on: September 15, 2010, 03:22:15 am »
killsdazombies 2 - Legit 1

First round I got a discord and used lightning on whatever he played.

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Second round he rushed me and I got a bad draw.

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