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Re: [F] Triple Threat vs. Poker Faces https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33862.msg428517#msg428517
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2011, 02:36:18 am »
Awesome games.  Playing like this makes me remember the mind games Aether puts you through in dueling; I don't think my heart rate will return to normal for another hour or two.
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Re: [F] Triple Threat vs. Poker Faces https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33862.msg428537#msg428537
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2011, 03:01:16 am »
I drew my mummy, silenced him, and fractalled, expecting aether quanta for the next silence. Suddenly, noticed that it's death's turn for quanta. No silence for me!
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Re: [F] Triple Threat vs. Poker Faces https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33862.msg428544#msg428544
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2011, 03:14:37 am »
I drew my mummy, silenced him, and fractalled, expecting aether quanta for the next silence. Suddenly, noticed that it's death's turn for quanta. No silence for me!
Timing Fractal + Silence/Dim chains properly is an art; Pends don't make it any easier D:
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Re: [F] Triple Threat vs. Poker Faces https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33862.msg428546#msg428546
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2011, 03:25:27 am »
lol
fractal + silence chain strategy on both sides?

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Re: [F] Triple Threat vs. Poker Faces https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33862.msg428563#msg428563
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2011, 04:48:05 am »
lol
fractal + silence chain strategy on both sides?
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Re: [F] Triple Threat vs. Poker Faces https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33862.msg428579#msg428579
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2011, 05:21:03 am »
Wow will, that second game sounds like it was amazing.  Wish I had been there to watch it.  Excellent strategy!

Congrats Triple Threat on your hard-earned win.  This matchup was really intense just from reading the small match descriptions.
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Re: [F] Triple Threat 2 vs. Poker Faces 1 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33862.msg428781#msg428781
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2011, 05:53:42 pm »
Frankly, i had always thought we would win this, regardless of facing 3 strong and veteran masters. At the very least, I thought me and light_sefi had the element advantages. I managed to counter napalm where light_sefi had some epic balanced matches. It was harder for valuka fighting against both of the best elements in this game :) especially at the hands of lady aether. I think what we lacked was communication, we didn't really talk about our decks nor strategies. Let this be a lesson to other teams.

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Re: [F] Triple Threat 2 vs. Poker Faces 1 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33862.msg428795#msg428795
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2011, 06:45:17 pm »
It was harder for valuka fighting against both of the best elements in this game
He was able to use both the Gravity + Entropy duo and the Team Element :aether (wich was the same for Higs). I don't think he had an element disadvantage there.

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Re: [F] Triple Threat 2 vs. Poker Faces 1 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33862.msg428824#msg428824
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2011, 08:42:13 pm »
My take on elemental advantage:

  :aether  Triple ThreatPoker Faces  :aether 
  :life willng3  :gravity  light_sefi  :death
- Slight advantage for sefi for three reasons: easier to do damage, easier to defend (BW is huge), and mass-CC. The likes of Staff and Heal deal with Poison quite well, but having more effective offensive options and more defensive options is always an edge. We had to tag-team sefi to win here, so yes, teamwork matters.

  :darkness Higurashi  :gravity  valuka  :entropy
- Slight advantage for me. This is solely because Dishole is such an obvious pick and so easily countered by Aether and Darkness. Heavy CC, defence and healing means I had an endless amount of stamina compared to him. Steals over BE is a huge PC advantage as well, which is clear in stall vs. stall.

  :fire ~Napalm  :life  hainkarga  :darkness
- No advantage. hain has a bit more synergy here between elements; mainly the stamina from Aether/Darkness, but Nap has more ways of doing damage. Since that's important, the Life element would've helped hain much more if he didn't already have Darkness. The battle element is pretty much useless for hain, but at least it's not a crutch like it was for valuka.
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Re: [F] Triple Threat 2 vs. Poker Faces 1 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33862.msg428845#msg428845
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2011, 09:13:56 pm »
I don't think the Battle element did Triple Threat any favors in this round tbh

I also think sefi and will were more evenly matched in terms of elements than you give credit for.  While BW is a very nice defense, :life has arguably one of the best counter cards for it with Adrenaline, and when you factor in Mitosis/Fractal it makes the effectiveness of BW far less.  Then you have Emerald Dragons being large enough to survive a single Lightning and it wasn't quite the advantage for sefi.  PU Adrenafrogs, Mitodragons (w/Quints if needed), Frogtal, Scorptal, PU Adrenascorps......that doesn't even include the built-in BW bypass of Momentum that the Battle element gave will.  Momentum off the Mark on Adrenascorps could have been a nasty BW counter deck.  All in all I think :aether :life is a fairly even matchup to :aether :death, especially when :gravity gives the latter the threat of decks that would be able to ignore BW.
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Re: [F] Triple Threat 2 vs. Poker Faces 1 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33862.msg428855#msg428855
« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2011, 09:30:28 pm »
(I was an inch from suggesting ImmoGolems for Nap in the last duel, but decided to leave it to her. That's how close that duel was.)
Better to ask her if i'm right, but i thought she would expect devtal from me on the first match (and she did think so), then i thought she would think i would go devtal because i lost the first game it looked like i would think devtal would win on second match. So i didn't. To me, she indeed expected devtal on 2nd match seeing she brought them creamations. On my side of the board, since first game was 1 round short, i just did what i thought was right and increased the aggression. I really don't think she expected a devtal on the 3rd match, but who knows. The whole time, i was afraid of RoF. I was hoping nightmares would prevent that possibility.
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