Colosseum II - Rules

[Laxadarap]

After a bit of deliberation, and symmetry through the event: If you have the weakness "crybaby".  They may be used upgraded (but do not count towards brave/coward.  This is because this is a "sister" weakness to pious, and pious allows upgraded cards.  I am not sure if it was assumed or not, but when I originally made the rule, I assumed they were not to be upgraded.  These upgrades do not take away from your "normal" upgrades. 

I'm a derp and second-guessed myself.  They require you to use your ups (if you choose to upgrade them).

[majofa]

After a bit of deliberation, and symmetry through the event: If you have the weakness "crybaby".  They may be used upgraded (but do not count towards brave/coward.  This is because this is a "sister" weakness to pious, and pious allows upgraded cards.  I am not sure if it was assumed or not, but when I originally made the rule, I assumed they were not to be upgraded.  These upgrades do not take away from your "normal" upgrades.

So, for Pious, you can use 6 upped angels in any deck you want? (but it doesn't count towards/against the amount used to determine Brave/Coward?)

I was under the impression that you could use either angel, but only the upped version IF you chose to use your ups to do so... Which would be the same for Nymph's Tears.

[Laxadarap]

And thats what I get for doubting myself after reading pm's XD.  You are correct.  Ignore what I just wrote.

[TheEpicTomato]

Awesome art!  The pit looks a little plain though, but maybe that's how it's supposed to be.  Also it would be cool with a death and darkness arena overrun with the undead and creatures of the night. 

[Laxadarap]

This is just random art I found online that fit.  I didn't draw these XD.

[Laxadarap]

Double post because important: Since this came to my attention with DANIEELA vs. Dragoon.  Any negative ups count as upgrades for your opponent: so in this scenario, if Danieela can use -6 upgraded cards, and Dragoon can use -2, it is treated as DANIEELA using 2 ups, and Dragoon using 6, NOT DANIEELA using 0 and Dragoon using 4.

[Zso_Zso]

- Crybaby: You may use 6 copies of Nymph's Tears in every deck, but must not use Fire cards.

Are fire cards banned for the player even if he/she does not use Nymph Tears in a deck ?
Or it is tied to the use, i.e. no fire cards IF you use the nymph tears.

[majofa]

- Crybaby: You may use 6 copies of Nymph's Tears in every deck, but must not use Fire cards.

Are fire cards banned for the player even if he/she does not use Nymph Tears in a deck ?
Or it is tied to the use, i.e. no fire cards IF you use the nymph tears.

You can't use fire cards at all.

[Laxadarap]

- Crybaby: You may use 6 copies of Nymph's Tears in every deck, but must not use Fire cards.

Are fire cards banned for the player even if he/she does not use Nymph Tears in a deck ?
Or it is tied to the use, i.e. no fire cards IF you use the nymph tears.

You can't use fire cards at all.

Correct.

Premise: I can't 'use creatures with an active skill'.

That only means I can not put those creatures in my deck, right? But I am allowed to play Owl's Eye + FW, or Nymph Tears + Air Pend, or the like. Correct?

Thanks in advance.

I did not think about this, owl's Eye + FW I do not count as a creature (correct me if it is classified as one).  Nymphs tears I am torn about, but as a nymph is a creature with an active skill, you may not use it even through nymphs tears.  Part of this is because there would be no way to prove that you did not in fact use them in your deck.  A screenshot by opponent could be dismissed as (oh, I used NT).  So yes you may use Flying weapons, no you may not use nymph tears (and this means no nymph queen + air pends).

[rob77dp]

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Premise: I can't 'use creatures with an active skill'.

That only means I can not put those creatures in my deck, right? But I am allowed to play Owl's Eye + FW, or Nymph Tears + Air Pend, or the like. Correct?

Thanks in advance.

I did not think about this, owl's Eye + FW I do not count as a creature (correct me if it is classified as one).  Nymphs tears I am torn about, but as a nymph is a creature with an active skill, you may not use it even through nymphs tears.  Part of this is because there would be no way to prove that you did not in fact use them in your deck.  A screenshot by opponent could be dismissed as (oh, I used NT).  So yes you may use Flying weapons, no you may not use nymph tears (and this means no nymph queen + air pends).

Might help to consider some wording on Mitosis: "...the non-weapon creature skill is now..." which to me indicates the game/creator (zanz) considers flying weapons to be creatures.  Otherwise, this extra qualifier "non-weapon" would not exist for Mitosis.  Right?

[Laxadarap]

Ok, with chat deliberation (see I'm a friendly PvPO who listens to the community), only cards in the deck code will be regarded concering legality.  I am trusting you guys to follow the rules.  If you feel wary about your opponent, screenshot when you play NT, if they try to disprove you/cheat, they will be banned from all pvp events (not just parasites, cheating is a complete ban).

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5ig 5ig 5ig 5ig 5ig 5ig 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 8pp

Legal because there are no creatures in deck code (NT are spells)

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5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi 5ol 5ol 5ol 5ol 5ol 5ol 8pr

Legal because there are no creatures in deck code (owl's eyes are perms)

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5ig 5ig 5ig 5ig 5ig 5ig 5p0 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 8pp

Illegal because not all cards are airborne (nymph)

Also of note, for crybaby skill: You may not use fire pends, pillars, or standalone mark cards (quanta cards count for the element they give quanta too).  You may use a fire mark though.

[Zso_Zso]

Question about "+Tough" (opponent needs to win 1 extra game):

Suppose the player with Tough strength is down 2-3, not lost yet because of the strength. He wins next game, so its 3-3. Did he win the whole match (having won 3 games and the opponent does not have Tough), or does he need to win another game for 4-3, because the match is tied at the moment ?