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Re: YOUR arena farmer? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33655.msg447505#msg447505
« Reply #48 on: January 10, 2012, 04:25:00 am »
Ok I revised my deck.

A flown eternity with a shard of readiness on it will instantly rewind and set back your opponent at least 2 creatures and then a free one every turn. I just upgraded my cards and won myself a 6th Pharaoh and SoR. I just need to upgrade the last Time Pend and add 1+ Time Tower. If anyone could manage my quanta for me, that would be nice too.

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Aren't you supposed to be nomming all your opponent's creatures?  Why rewind when you can devour? And there's really no point in having the flying weapon.  You have enough towers/pends that you can easily use eternity's ability.  All the flying weapon does is waste a draw.

On another note, I personally wouldn't use eternity.  If you're afraid of deckout, then add in a few overdrives instead (take out a few towers as well; it looks like there's too many).  Combined with chimera, you shouldn't be decking out unless you were playing against a healing stall deck (or the RNG hates you and puts all the overdrives at the bottom or something).

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Re: YOUR arena farmer? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33655.msg447507#msg447507
« Reply #49 on: January 10, 2012, 04:50:58 am »
Rewind is there for growing creatures, as the deck is notorious for slow starts. It is also there for huge creatures and creatures with CC (Massive dragons, Grown units, Flayers/Ulitharids, Oty, etc) - because scarabs need a few turns to get big.

As for towers, I agree, I need someone to link me a quanta manager tool or to do one for me, it would be appreciated :)

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Re: YOUR arena farmer? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33655.msg447537#msg447537
« Reply #50 on: January 10, 2012, 07:50:32 am »
Rewind is there for growing creatures, as the deck is notorious for slow starts. It is also there for huge creatures and creatures with CC (Massive dragons, Grown units, Flayers/Ulitharids, Oty, etc) - because scarabs need a few turns to get big.

As for towers, I agree, I need someone to link me a quanta manager tool or to do one for me, it would be appreciated :)
off-topic: here it is (http://elements.alanbeam.net/qi.php)
on-topic: update on my current grinder, eh? this (fatty) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,31570.120.html#lastPost) has been pretty useful against anything without too much PC (both pillar & perm).. works wonders against gold and silver, hit or miss at platinum, and too slow, but pretty much cakewalk on bronze  ^-^

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Re: YOUR arena farmer? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33655.msg447636#msg447636
« Reply #51 on: January 10, 2012, 05:48:57 pm »
Rewind is there for growing creatures, as the deck is notorious for slow starts. It is also there for huge creatures and creatures with CC (Massive dragons, Grown units, Flayers/Ulitharids, Oty, etc) - because scarabs need a few turns to get big.

As for towers, I agree, I need someone to link me a quanta manager tool or to do one for me, it would be appreciated :)
The animate weapon is still pretty useless imo.  And in that case, you might as well replace it with another eternity, to have a better chance of getting one early.

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Re: YOUR arena farmer? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33655.msg447654#msg447654
« Reply #52 on: January 10, 2012, 06:44:44 pm »
Rewind is there for growing creatures, as the deck is notorious for slow starts. It is also there for huge creatures and creatures with CC (Massive dragons, Grown units, Flayers/Ulitharids, Oty, etc) - because scarabs need a few turns to get big.

As for towers, I agree, I need someone to link me a quanta manager tool or to do one for me, it would be appreciated :)
The animate weapon is still pretty useless imo.  And in that case, you might as well replace it with another eternity, to have a better chance of getting one early.
If you do that you can't avoid Permanent Control. Also removes access to the free rewinds. Also prevents you from playing a 3 card combo that can send send 3 of your opponents creatures to their deck.

Also, I now have a thread for this deck (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,35559.0)in the Trio Deck subsection.

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Re: YOUR arena farmer? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33655.msg447672#msg447672
« Reply #53 on: January 10, 2012, 07:34:08 pm »
If you do that you can't avoid Permanent Control. Also removes access to the free rewinds. Also prevents you from playing a 3 card combo that can send send 3 of your opponents creatures to their deck.
You may be able to avoid permanent control if you draw both those cards (both of which have only one copy in the whole deck) but not very often and at the cost of leaving yourself open to creature control when there are more CC cards in the game that PC.

You may not be able to get free rewinds but you can just as easily use your shards of readiness on your pharaohs and use the quanta you would have used on their abilities on rewinding.

You may not be able to use a three card combo (for which you need to draw two cards that have only one card of each) but it is uncommon with that few copies and more or less pointless when you should be able to eat anything your opponent plays with all that excess gravity quanta that you have.

Overall, I think that the animate weapon is just a waste of space.


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Re: YOUR arena farmer? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33655.msg447688#msg447688
« Reply #54 on: January 10, 2012, 08:27:29 pm »
If you do that you can't avoid Permanent Control. Also removes access to the free rewinds. Also prevents you from playing a 3 card combo that can send send 3 of your opponents creatures to their deck.
You may be able to avoid permanent control if you draw both those cards (both of which have only one copy in the whole deck) but not very often and at the cost of leaving yourself open to creature control when there are more CC cards in the game that PC.

You may not be able to get free rewinds but you can just as easily use your shards of readiness on your pharaohs and use the quanta you would have used on their abilities on rewinding.

You may not be able to use a three card combo (for which you need to draw two cards that have only one card of each) but it is uncommon with that few copies and more or less pointless when you should be able to eat anything your opponent plays with all that excess gravity quanta that you have.

Overall, I think that the animate weapon is just a waste of space.
And I see your point, in which you're right - but more often than not, you will come across tougher creatures in higher leagues, and the ability to rewind as many creatures as you want (keep spamming SoR) is unparalleled for locking up a deck and actually giving your pharaohs a chance to stack some scarabs. Once again, it is all up to opinion right now, as the deck is still unbalanced and is unready to be heavy-duty tested.

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Re: YOUR arena farmer? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33655.msg447718#msg447718
« Reply #55 on: January 10, 2012, 09:47:24 pm »
If you do that you can't avoid Permanent Control. Also removes access to the free rewinds. Also prevents you from playing a 3 card combo that can send send 3 of your opponents creatures to their deck.
You may be able to avoid permanent control if you draw both those cards (both of which have only one copy in the whole deck) but not very often and at the cost of leaving yourself open to creature control when there are more CC cards in the game that PC.

You may not be able to get free rewinds but you can just as easily use your shards of readiness on your pharaohs and use the quanta you would have used on their abilities on rewinding.

You may not be able to use a three card combo (for which you need to draw two cards that have only one card of each) but it is uncommon with that few copies and more or less pointless when you should be able to eat anything your opponent plays with all that excess gravity quanta that you have.

Overall, I think that the animate weapon is just a waste of space.
And I see your point, in which you're right - but more often than not, you will come across tougher creatures in higher leagues, and the ability to rewind as many creatures as you want (keep spamming SoR) is unparalleled for locking up a deck and actually giving your pharaohs a chance to stack some scarabs. Once again, it is all up to opinion right now, as the deck is still unbalanced and is unready to be heavy-duty tested.
That's still only if you get the eternity and the flying weapon early.  If either comes late, it's usually pointless, since you either already lost or already ate everything with scarabs.

 

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