Where I can find some more detailed guide to Arena?

[Aves]

Eh, right. I don't know why I said that.
Total games is irrelevant.
Change 'total games' to 'total # games won'

You can quit without rating, but I'd believe that the game still counts- and as thumbs down gives what the Arena originally gave, before the thumbs up/down system, I'd imagine that ragequit=thumbs down.

The value of thumbs down would be... for bronze, 2, silver 3, gold 5, plat 10. I remember a thread about on it, somewhere.

[Lex]

Ah, yes, I can rate game only when I lose. Thank you for the info about value of thumbs.

Anyway I think such info should not be hidden but displayed in the same way as other values and presented on wiki also.

[Lex]

I've created some trial deck and tried to submit it but game said that I need 35 cards. Even above build deck area there is a message that deck should have 30-60 cards. Is that rule about 35 cards some bug?

[ralouf]

Decks you submit in arena have to be 35 cards, that's the rule in arena ^^

[Lex]

So they need to change text message about 30-60 cards then.

[Lex]

Can someone explain me how rating/rank works? At the moment my deck seems to be below top 500 while decks with the same stats (or worse) as mine are still "visible" when I press "leaderboard" button. Also, if my deck is below top 500 / not active does it mean it will not be selected as opponent any more?

EDIT: Two more things I've noticed:

3. I'm not sure, to be honest. I've always cashed them in before submitting a new deck. Doing that can't hurt, anyways.

After submitting a new deck, Electrum you've earned so far remains at value level that was before submit.

Also, if your deck falls below the top 500 in rank, you cannot modify the deck anymore; only an active deck can be modified.

I was able to enter "Modify deck" area and there was also "Submit" button.

[Aves]

The top 500 decks only allow for 500 slots. If your deck has the same stats as a top 500 deck, but is below them, then your deck simply got worse before their decks hit the same low point. Decks below rank 500 will not be seen by any opponents- they are done, unless somehow their rank goes above 500 again. Rank is determined by rating, which is determined by wins and losses in the arena. Rating is adjusted by algorithms automatically, and is almost never consistent.

[Lex]

Rank is determined by rating, which is determined by wins and losses in the arena. Rating is adjusted by algorithms automatically, and is almost never consistent.

So these algorithms probably need some improvement as my deck had better win-lose ratio as some decks in top500 but somehow managed to get worse rating... If rating is determined by wins-losses how deck with better win-lose ratio can get worse rating?


Also: I noticed that playing Arena I am able to get upgraded cards only from Gold/Platinum bonus (after 4/3 consecutive wins) spin for rares - is that true? I played games with decks in all four leagues but never noticed any upgraded card in three normal spins after win.

EDIT: This picture was taken on Arena screen:



The smallest element on visible part of pendulum card is mark of my current deck, Entropy - shouldn't it be the mark of opponent's deck, Time? Also, during play, when I am checking opponent's pendulums these cards while in zoom also show my mark - it is very confusing for me.

[dragonsdemesne]

So these algorithms probably need some improvement as my deck had better win-lose ratio as some decks in top500 but somehow managed to get worse rating... If rating is determined by wins-losses how deck with better win-lose ratio can get worse rating?


Also: I noticed that playing Arena I am able to get upgraded cards only from Gold/Platinum bonus (after 4/3 consecutive wins) spin for rares - is that true? I played games with decks in all four leagues but never noticed any upgraded card in three normal spins after win.

The algorithm is dependent on how well your deck is doing compared to other decks in the league, so it is somewhat dynamic, although I suspect this is fairly negligible.  The big difference comes from thumbs up-down ratings.  If a deck gets a lot of thumbs-ups, it can place higher than a deck that is better but nobody likes.

The smallest element on visible part of pendulum card is mark of my current deck, Entropy - shouldn't it be the mark of opponent's deck, Time? Also, during play, when I am checking opponent's pendulums these cards while in zoom also show my mark - it is very confusing for me.

In arena, the only upgraded cards you can get are the rares from gold/platinum.  Bronze/silver rares and all normal spins are unupped.  The only upped cards you can win are gold/platinum special spins, all false god spins, and the occasional halfblood spin.

[Lex]

Bronze/silver rares and all normal spins are unupped.

Ah, I was hoping to get maybe some upped "commons" in normal spins if my opponent was using them in deck.

[Aves]

All normal spins are unupped except in FGs, which are always upped, and half-bloods, which can be both. Gold and Silver special spins are also upped. Those are the only ways you can win upped cards. Also, the pendulum art always refers to you, the elemental, as you are the one looking at the pendulum.

[Lex]

Yes, I am looking at, but in case when the card belongs to opponent that is wrong because it should show what quanta it currently produces, not what it will produce when I, for example, steal it.