How do you rate decks that beat you ?

[Daguerreo]

Instant Thumbs Down:
- Mono (basic ones)
- Oraclebows (basic ones)
- Immorush
- Ghostmare
- Death rushes
- Poisonrush with SoSa
- Mono (basic ones)

Stuff like that.

Thumbs up:
- Original deckbuilding
- Fun Decks
- Strong inventive decks

Copy- paste.

[RavingRabbid]

I thumbs up decks that received an insanely low amount of plays, too. Unless it's a Firestall. I don't lose against Firestalls.

Now, seriously, this is a chance at normalizing RNG.

[puri1]

@Puri1: Correct me if I'm wrong, but your post specifically implies that Ghostmare, and more generally, Generic Novabows firestalls and SoSa Poison Stalls, don't have a lack of originality and thought, since they don't get an automatic thumbs down like Aetherstall.

Yeah, I was actually thinking about it later and decided I need to clarify my position. If they build any of those you mentioned, I wouldn't thumb it down iff they used the Oracle card as an essential part of the strategy. So if their Oracle card was a Nightmare/GotP, I would give a thumbs up assuming they won due to it being a well made deck (and not sheer luck). There's unfortunately not a huge selection of decks that can utilize those cards in the excessive amount of 5 apart from Ghostmare, and I don't feel it's fair to penalize the player for getting lucky with the Oracle and using a generic build if it's one of the few that can handle 5 copies of those cards.

This reasoning applies to Fire Shield as the Oracle Card (Novabows firestalls) and Poison/Arsenic as the Oracle Card (SoSa Poisonstalls). What other deck can you make with 5 Fire Shields and hope to be semi-successful? Thus, if I recognize the deck archetype while playing I use this logic to see if the Oracle card was needed and is being used in that build. Now, the "essential to the strategy" bit is important. If they make a Ghostmare because they have Time Tower as their Oracle card, then I would thumb it down since they could easily have done something more creative. Finally, the reason I single out Aetherstall is because out of the dozens that I have played in Arena, about 80% just mindlessly change the mark (or not) to incorporate their Oracle Card but leave the rest of the deck in the regular old setup. That's boring and cheap, so I just thumb them all down.

I hope that helps explain my apparent thumbs up/down madness 

[mwaetht]

Here are a few examples I'm interested in seeing how everyone would think of.

-Oracle card Poison. I build mono-Aether, but I use a 1xMark of Death to run the Poisons/Deadly Poisons. Would you thumbs-up it or not?

On one hand, it would arguably be creative to obtain Poison and see the effectiveness of Dimensional Shield over making a mono-Death. On the other, mono-Aether decks are a dime a dozen.

-Oracle card Vampire. I put in some usable-but-weird card (for example, Dagger) in a mono-Darkness deck. Would you thumbs-up it or not?

On one hand, it's certainly unorthodox. On the other hand, the overall archetype is uncreative, and you can't be sure if they put it in just out of stupidity instead of concern for creativity.

[DoubleCapitals]

Here are a few examples I'm interested in seeing how everyone would think of.

-Oracle card Poison. I build mono-Aether, but I use a 1xMark of Death to run the Poisons/Deadly Poisons. Would you thumbs-up it or not?
On one hand, it would arguably be creative to obtain Poison and see the effectiveness of Dimensional Shield over making a mono-Death. On the other, mono-Aether decks are a dime a dozen.

-Oracle card Vampire. I put in some usable-but-weird card (for example, Dagger) in a mono-Darkness deck. Would you thumbs-up it or not?On one hand, it's certainly unorthodox. On the other hand, the overall archetype is uncreative, and you can't be sure if they put it in just out of stupidity instead of concern for creativity.

Yes. I doubt it would beat me though...

Depends. If it has steals, then no.

Also, I thumb down decks that are PC-heavy. Its annoying and unoriginal.

[mesaprotector]

With dagger, there's no such thing as a useful deck. Well, maybe Dagger + Flying Weapon + Adrenaline... but Staffs would be better in any case.

[mwaetht]

Dagger specifically isn't the point. The point is for a weird card to be there in general.

[Elite arbiter]

Here are a few examples I'm interested in seeing how everyone would think of.

-Oracle card Poison. I build mono-Aether, but I use a 1xMark of Death to run the Poisons/Deadly Poisons. Would you thumbs-up it or not?

On one hand, it would arguably be creative to obtain Poison and see the effectiveness of Dimensional Shield over making a mono-Death. On the other, mono-Aether decks are a dime a dozen.

Depends on the league. Silver and Bronze almost certainly. But gold and platinum I'd have to think about it, although in plat you'd probably be running a x2 mark to splash in arsenic too. But it isn't that original.

-Oracle card Vampire. I put in some usable-but-weird card (for example, Dagger) in a mono-Darkness deck. Would you thumbs-up it or not?

On one hand, it's certainly unorthodox. On the other hand, the overall archetype is uncreative, and you can't be sure if they put it in just out of stupidity instead of concern for creativity.

Its actually not unorthodox at all. Its just mono-darkness and I'd rate it the same as mono-darkness. Hell darkness even has a dagger of its own that is better in every meaningful way.

Also, thumbs downing decks that have mass PC is almost like thumbs downing decks that depend on towers or mass CC. Its something, but its not actually worthy of a thumbs down regardless of the actual deck like that suggests.

And for the record 'weird cards' don't really matter all that much for my ratings. What matters is unorthodox and different 'strategies' on the whole. Might just be me, but with very few exceptions I vote based on the theme of the deck rather than "that one card I hate".

[mwaetht]

You've got a good point there. Thanks for the input.

[mrtwigie01]

If I lose to any decks, I rate it a thumbs down, because I will not accept losing as an option!

[dabuda]

If I see a deck that is common, thumbs down (for instance, fire rush, invulnerable aether, etc)

If I see any originality, or even common decks that have a sliver of original twist in it, thumbs up.

needless to say, I thumbs down over half because the two mentioned above seem to be the only ones I run into.

[willng3]

SoSa has moved to the top of my list of decks that gets a thumbs down if it manages to defeat me.  It's easily countered when I know it's coming, but lately I've seen it used in decks that have absolutely no business using it which just annoys me.  Seriously getting bored of beating decks using them and being defeated by others.