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Re: Gold League oracleBow: how to be better than mediocre without trying https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28268.msg361613#msg361613
« Reply #36 on: July 06, 2011, 07:20:42 am »
then you are looking at platinum league, and that wasn't really the point of this thread, but yeah this deck full upped would be pretty scary... the lockdown would start a turn or two sooner and wouldn't let up as much (it could draw faster with all upped hourglasses).
Not really. Gold has up to 59 points, and this deck doesn't really need a 2x mark if it is fully upped. Even half-upped (all quanta producers and hourglasses) is very good, so... 20 points for Dex, 16 points for Wis, rest in hp (about 10 points left in Gold means 150 hp, which is plenty).
there is much truth to what you say.  Upgraded hourglasses to make up for 1x mark... but again the idea here is an unupped deck for people who are in gold league but don't have a lot of upped cards... oracleBow is the "unupped FG farmer" of arena.  It wins at a decent enough rate... but you can make things that win more.  Upping half of it or so does make it better, I agree, but that isn't the point, per se, of the oracleBow.  And I really think anyone with 20x QTs can make better decks than this...  I only have 7x QTs (hence I made the oracleBow).
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Re: Gold League oracleBow: how to be better than mediocre without trying https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28268.msg362245#msg362245
« Reply #37 on: July 07, 2011, 07:42:17 am »
NONONONO

You should NOT be encouraging this behavior.
Heh mad? I see you throwing up them fire stalls in Platinum League and hoping no one notices.

Don't whiteknight against someone who wants a cheap win because I know you want it too. Everyone does.

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Re: Gold League oracleBow: how to be better than mediocre without trying https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28268.msg362247#msg362247
« Reply #38 on: July 07, 2011, 07:56:28 am »
NONONONO

You should NOT be encouraging this behavior.
Heh mad? I see you throwing up them fire stalls in Platinum League and hoping no one notices.

Don't whiteknight against someone who wants a cheap win because I know you want it too. Everyone does.
There is a difference.  With oraclebow, you ignore your oracle card completely in deck building.  For a fire stall, you still need to use your oracle card in the context of the deck.


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Re: Gold League oracleBow: how to be better than mediocre without trying https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28268.msg362248#msg362248
« Reply #39 on: July 07, 2011, 07:59:33 am »
It's ok to want a cheap win, but not to build the very same deck with always the same 55 cards, and add the 5 card given, with no care about what they are...

I completely disagree with this thread, because if you are able to build a deck than can work any card given, save it for yourself...if you share it on the forum, many more people will use it, and when fighting league, you will fight too many similar deck...arena was made to increase the variety of deck to fight in pve, not to fight similar decks over and over again...
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Re: Gold League oracleBow: how to be better than mediocre without trying https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28268.msg362431#msg362431
« Reply #40 on: July 07, 2011, 05:30:52 pm »
It's ok to want a cheap win, but not to build the very same deck with always the same 55 cards, and add the 5 card given, with no care about what they are...

I completely disagree with this thread, because if you are able to build a deck than can work any card given, save it for yourself...if you share it on the forum, many more people will use it, and when fighting league, you will fight too many similar deck...arena was made to increase the variety of deck to fight in pve, not to fight similar decks over and over again...
But Arena strictly speaking is not PvE, the player putting the deck up has something to gain from their deck winning.  So many people are looking at this from just 1 side... I put this up to help people in gold league that don't have the resources to build competitive decks around any card.  You can look at those people and say "well then sit the day out because I don't want to play against another oracleBow" but then you are the one trying to hold another player back.  This thread exists because while many people farm the arena... the arena is farming FOR many people as well.  And in every other part of the game we are all about helping people make/use decks that farm best (or at least effectively), so I think that should extend into this part of the game as well.
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Re: Gold League oracleBow: how to be better than mediocre without trying https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28268.msg362568#msg362568
« Reply #41 on: July 07, 2011, 10:40:14 pm »
Hey, I am in gold and just got SN from the oracle.  2/3 of my quickly self made mono/duo decks have done fine, but I am curious to see how much better I can do with a fully upped mastercheese deck.  If someone can please PM me a good setup I can try for a couple days I'd appreciate it, though I expect I'll be able to get it pretty near optimal myself.  Thanks!

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Re: Gold League oracleBow: how to be better than mediocre without trying https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28268.msg362888#msg362888
« Reply #42 on: July 08, 2011, 05:47:26 pm »
I have done more deck making thesedays that the arena has come out, than my entire year and a half of playing. Ilike how this makes us use different cards. If you just want to make rainbows, power to you, but you will not grow as a player, and the community will be squanderinb much deckmaking potential. Today I saw a player I had never heard of before as the top person in platinum. He could be the next yalidae/JMDT. If you are nit complacennt and work on a few decks, you may just be able to find ot how boneyards can change the metagame or something, because you were forced to make a new deck.

The oraclebow could wast great minds that needed a push in the ight directjon.

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Re: Gold League oracleBow: how to be better than mediocre without trying https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28268.msg362890#msg362890
« Reply #43 on: July 08, 2011, 05:51:34 pm »
The oraclebow could waste great minds that needed a push in the right directon.
Fixed.

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Re: Gold League oracleBow: how to be better than mediocre without trying https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28268.msg362896#msg362896
« Reply #44 on: July 08, 2011, 06:04:57 pm »
The oraclebow could waste great minds that needed a push in the right directon.
Fixed.

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Four minutes. Impressive.

I look forward to see what new card I will be plugging into my oraclebow tomorrow.

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Re: Gold League oracleBow: how to be better than mediocre without trying https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28268.msg362937#msg362937
« Reply #45 on: July 08, 2011, 07:44:04 pm »
The oraclebow could waste great minds that needed a push in the right directon.
Fixed.

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Four minutes. Impressive.

I look forward to see what new card I will be plugging into my oraclebow tomorrow.
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Wait you got 1st place in plat with oraclebow? Damn you CCC, now everyone is going to play super boring - non creative - no fun at all decks. Thank you guys very much for making Arena much worse...

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Re: Gold League oracleBow: how to be better than mediocre without trying https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28268.msg362942#msg362942
« Reply #46 on: July 08, 2011, 07:51:50 pm »
Wait you got 1st place in plat with oraclebow? Damn you CCC, now everyone is going to play super boring - non creative - no fun at all decks. Thank you guys very much for making Arena much worse...
Let me direct you to a thread where you can complain about Quantum Towers.

Spoiler alert, it isn't the thread you just posted in.

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28129.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28129.0.html)

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Re: Gold League oracleBow: how to be better than mediocre without trying https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28268.msg362947#msg362947
« Reply #47 on: July 08, 2011, 08:03:21 pm »
Wait you got 1st place in plat with oraclebow? Damn you CCC, now everyone is going to play super boring - non creative - no fun at all decks. Thank you guys very much for making Arena much worse...
Let me direct you to a thread where you can complain about Quantum Towers.

Spoiler alert, it isn't the thread you just posted in.

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28129.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28129.0.html)

Oh thx....only if I knew this earlier...

spoiler alert- I have posted there several times and I was just talking about the oraclebow...Why the hell should I blame the deck in this thread by posting in another one...duh

 

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