Dexterity. Worth it?

[agentflare]

I want to hear the opinion of the Elements community.

Is Dexterity worth taking, or is it better to stack up on hp/ upped card count?

[TheCrazyMango]

i use it frequently, imo, its a higher priority than upps

[Essence]

Depends on a lot of circumstances.  If you're playing a stall deck (especially if you're with Miracles), you want HP over Dexterity.  If you have lots of upped cards and a deck that requires them, you want Wisdom.  If you need a lot of a specific kind of quanta very quickly, you want Intelligence.  (I played vs. a nearly mono-time Silver deck with x3 :earthmark that used it to play 1 Graboid every turn, with GotP backup and lots of draw power...it was very clever, and very mean.)

But basically, unless you're in one of the above circumstances, you want Dexterity before much else.  It's the engine that makes the brokenest cards broken, after all.

[TheIdioticIdiot]

dexterity doubles your card count (if you have 6 copies of phoenix, you now have 12), and you get double draw

the chances of drawing the key cards are the same, however, you have more cards at your disposal

if you have 2 rage pots in your deck, you can take out two creatures, with dexterity, you can take out 4, imo, it's completely worth it

[wavedash]

You still have the same chance of drawing a particular card, yes. However, accumulative effects (namely Towers / Pillars) are much more powerful.

[TheCrazyMango]

You still have the same chance of drawing a particular card, yes. However, accumulative effects (namely Towers / Pillars) are much more powerful.

but you also have a higher chance of drawing a bad hand. i think.

[Essence]

That's true, you do.

[Toge111]

but you also have a higher chance of drawing a bad hand. i think.

- Every card still has same % chance to get picked and double deck size is countered by double drawing power.

[Essence]

Yes, but your initial 7-card hand (which doesn't double in size) has a greater chance to be flooded with too much quanta, not enough quanta, too many late-game cards, etc.  It's not a big disadvantage from a numerical standpoint, but it is a mathematically provable one.

[agentflare]

Yes, but your initial 7-card hand (which doesn't double in size) has a greater chance to be flooded with too much quanta, not enough quanta, too many late-game cards, etc.  It's not a big disadvantage from a numerical standpoint, but it is a mathematically provable one.

I'd like to see the mathematical proof for this.

[Essence]

Sure.  Go to your friendly neighborhood hypergeometric distribution calculator (http://stattrek.com/Tables/Hypergeometric.aspx) and plug in the numbers.

If you have 6 of a card in a 30-card deck, the chance of getting at least one of those cards in a 7-card hand is 82.9%.
If you have 12 of a card in a 60-card deck, the chance of getting at least one of those cards in a 7-card hand is 80.9%.

Like I said, the difference isn't major, but it is provable.

[wavedash]

Asking for proof of that is... wow. Just wow.

Something that actually takes some math to figure out, does Dexterity's double drawing make up for that? Probably dependent on the deck, I'm guessing.