Banning Supernova, Quantum Tower, and SoG from Arena (Yet another new poll)

[bucky1andonly]

my decks not a rainbow, which is what this is all about.  quantum is bored of playing against rainbow decks in the arena so he started this thread.

You even took down your creative deck because it was not doing that well.

i did not resort to a rainbow deck like all the nubs.  and like everyone else, i want my deck to do well so it makes me money.  and that is what the arena is supposed to be about, not who can create the most unique deck.  we have weekly tourneys with actual rewards that have restrictions all the time.  if you want to be creative, thats where you want to do it at.

so far, no valid reason has been given as to why these cards should be banned.

1) bored of seeing rainbow decks - invalid
2) people want deckbuilders to be creative - invalid
3) too hard due to an inadequate deck and/or library - invalid

so aside from these 3 things, which is no reason at all to ban cards, can anyone think up a valid reason for doing this?

[Selvaria]

1) bored of seeing rainbow decks - invalid
2) people want deckbuilders to be creative - invalid
3) too hard due to an inadequate deck and/or library - invalid

They look valid to me. Explain why are those reasons invalid.

I find it funny that you are argueing for SoG's and not banning anything saying it brings more creativity, when your deck consists of 6 Sancs, 6 SoG's, miracles and uses your oracle card as a dead card.

Hypocrite?

[Sevs]

personally i do not support the banning of rainbows, although doing so would absolutely inspire creativity.

I am however for banning shards. You can throw 6 of them into just about any deck and increase the winrate drastically.

1) of course that isnt a reason
2) how is that invalid? you yourself have proven that having shards available make deck uncreative.
3) no one here is really complaining that decks are too hard. platinum is meant to be a challenge. however a challenge doesnt have to mean uncreative.

The point of having to use the oracle card is to make each deck different and unique. Having oraclebow and decks like yours, bucky, are effective yes, but completely against the point of Arena.

And then by coming to this thread and acting that like you are some omniscient being is rather annoying. Your arrogance is actually really becoming offensive which only gets worse when you tell others to stop flaming after you comment that those in support are acting like Hitler.

i did not resort to a rainbow deck like all the nubs.

But you did resort to a deck that you can plug in any card and still work, which doesn't make you any better.

[Jenkar]

I might want to add that creativity was the reason ZANZARINO created the arena.

[Zuphix]

The cards are the cards, as they are. If you think they need to be banned freom the arena, think if they need to be nerfed alltogether.

[Manipul8r]

If there is a problem with rainbow decks being unbeatable even with 5 cards being picked by the Oracle, I think it would be a problem with the game's balance itself.  However, in my opinion, it's more likely just because they have all the Arena bonuses like every other deck in Gold/Plat.

Although I'm only in Silver league (level 33 right now), I have never used a rainbow deck for my Arena deck, and I've always had at least a 2:1 win to loss ratio or better.  Maybe it's just luck, I don't know, but I enjoy making my own decks and don't care if people log on regularly just for the purpose of rebuilding the same deck with 5 different cards.  The fact they aren't really enjoying a major part of the game and that they will sometimes have dead or near-dead cards in their deck is their loss, not mine.

Check out the thread about SoG needing to be nerfed for example.  I agree it needs to be nerfed, but I don't think it needs to be banned from a single part of the game.

[BluePriest]

I might want to add that creativity was the reason ZANZARINO created the arena.

quote please?

Honestly, this whole debate seems pointless to me. person x wants more creativity. Everyone must bend to person x's will and be creative. Just like everyone else.

 If you restrict rainbows, then all that will happen is all the pulverizer decks will look the same, all the Photon decks will look the same ect ect ect. Eiither that or platinum will become less worthy because instead of throwing in rainbows that can hold up a fight if a monkey builds them, people will try to make good non rainbow decks, however they wont test them, so they will be weak and platinum league will end up being boring.

[Essence]

BluePriest is 100% correct. 

[bucky1andonly]

+1 blue

[DrunkDestroyer]

The problem is that I have used every single one of these in a decent deck, which doesn't suck.

Of course, after playing against about a billion 60 card timebows or supernova rushes - with cards like UG, Mind flayer, which could make fun decks, I just cringe.
Desperate measures are okay. Just do this.

[Selvaria]

Honestly, this whole debate seems pointless to me. person x wants more creativity. Everyone must bend to person x's will and be creative. Just like everyone else.

Look at who started the "pointless" thing:

+1 blue

This is from someone who started a pointless off-topic debate about Hitler and art creativity. Fail, seriously.

The cards are the cards, as they are. If you think they need to be banned freom the arena, think if they need to be nerfed alltogether.

Correct. Me personally feels supernovas and SoGs need nerfing. Supernovas are kinda OP when the arena deck draws more than one cards.

[ralouf]

I'm in top 10 in plat. My deck run 0 Sn and 0 QT (0BH and grav nymph too)