Banning Supernova, Quantum Tower, and SoG from Arena (Yet another new poll)

[Xenocidius]

Gotta love majofa's epic editing skills

Seriously though, that's a great idea, but you say shards would still be allowed? That implies that other cards would be allowed, and therefore Quantum Towers. Still, the elemental restrictions would limit their usage, so it's not a problem. Is X constant or random?

I imagine in-game it would grey out all the boxes of the elements you are not allowed to use.

[parasite99]

+1 for majofa's idea

would bring some fun and creativity in Arena

[Marvaddin]

Give it up already, majority rules, and that means ban SoGs.

Oh, yeah, and looks like majority will in some time vote to ban QT, lol (although we know majority does not rules, lol).

I also liked majofa idea, although would prefer 4 elements allowed at least.

[Ashebrethafe]

I voted not to require a certain fraction of the deck to match the Oracle's element. I think newer players, who may have cards in only one or two elements and not much money to buy more, should be able to add or assimilate the Oracle card into their current deck and see how it performs. (By "assimilate," I mean add it along with the right number of pillars to get a good QI for the card's element.)

On the other hand, such decks may be better than I think -- my current deck at any given time is probably not one of the "standard" decks that people are protesting; and being an "indefinitely new" player (I keep resetting my accounts), I have only played bronze league so far.

[bucky1andonly]

Exactly, what Ashebrethafe said.

Stop this nonsense altogether.  New people don't start out with every card, so their decks won't be uber rainbow types.  You can play against what ever deck they stick into the arena at bronze level if things are too hard the way they are.  I believe that is why there are different levels.  If you are too bored playing against rainbow decks, ask all 500+ people in what ever category you like playing if they would kindly come up with something more creative, because their deck bores you.  Honestly, if you are bored playing against any kind of deck, take a break until the next set of cards are released.  You will come back to brand new cards and new decks to play against. 

Also, since the arena is still new, the idea that someone that has hardly played it can't really know what is best in terms of change for it.  Being bored after such a short time only means the problem is not the arena it is the person playing against arena decks.

[Marvaddin]

^ Lolololol, looks hopeless.

More I play, more I hate arena being 80% rainbows. And looks like people is just realizing the same thing.

I think if we are going to have elements restrictions, this shouldnt apply to bronze league. Like said, newbie players dont have many cards, and in bronze league people is not allowed to use double draw, that is part of the problem.

More I think more I believe the simple way to solve the problem would be ban QT (and shards of course).

[zse]

I think that idea Majofa suggested is just utterly terrible. How on earth would that encourage people for making NOVEL / INVENTIVE decks? All that would cause is making ONLY bunch of no-brain aggros that use the biggest hitters from given Elements. Less room for creativity on deck building leads to even worse decks than the ones we see now.

-1 for Majofa


If anything needs to be done to these brain-fart Rainbow decks, I'd like to see yet another Skill added for giving limits on how many Elements you can use. My idea would basically work like Wisdom Skill, but instead of buying more upped cards for deck, you'd use Skill points to buy more Elements:
0 points = Mono,
2 points = Duo,
4 points = Trio,
6 points = Quartet,
 ... 
22 points = Full Rainbow.

[ralouf]

Oh such a good idea like this every one will use monbrainless deck and keep their point for the other skills.
majofa idea needs work but looks far better

[Angelic_Dawn]

Zse's idea is quite nice  (, at least in my humble oppinion =) )

It allows any starting player play with the element's he/she got (instead of picking a random forced element they might not even have)
Tho in my oppinion it should be even more expensive

Like so

0 points = Mono,
3 points = Duo,
6 points = Trio,
9 points = Quartet,
 ...
36 points = Full Rainbow.

As even a Starting player who has run trough the basics quests will have at least 500 points, so that'd be...  7 Points  Enough to use even three diffrent elements. (of their choice)


But then again as the Froggy man said that might inspire mono/duo/trio  Decks who totaly disregard the Oracle card just like The rainbows your trying to get rid off.
Would probaly inspire ("Lava") Rush With a dash of or totaly ignore the oracle card.



Short:

Possibly best to get a combination of two such effects  (At least thats what i think =P )

Random Spin a few Elements (3 or so)

And allow for additional buy of more

Like so

6 points = +1 Element of your Choice   
(Why six? -Well as i said in the upper bit, anyone running trough the Quests/Tutorial Will have at least 500 Aka 7 points so they can pick at least 1 element of which they've got cards)

12 points = +2 Element of your Choice
18 points = +3 Element of your Choice
24 points = +4 Element of your Choice
 ...

54 points = Full Rainbow.   (+9 Elements)
(Aka we dont ban rainbows, but still allow them for those who can make such an epic one it doesnt even need a lot of god powers)
 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28283.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28283.0.html)

Ps: Maybe 6points per additional Element is the wrong number, But you get the idea =p
 

Will this work? Maybe looks like it has a better shot (At least in my head =P )
Probaly not, as most people will still try to get off easy.

So far my pennies, ~Angel.

[kiszol]

Angelic_Dawn: This is a good idea, but full rainbow would be far too expensive that way. I guess having just mono and duo decks in Arena is not the point, is it? If there are 1 of 4 or 1 of 5 rainbow decks, that's ok imo.
So a maybe better "system":

Mono: 0 additional points (color of the oracle card)
Duo: 4 additional points
Trio: 5 additional points
4-6 used elements: 12 additional points
7-12 used elements: 20 additional points

majofa's idea isn't bad either, but there must be some difference in bronze and platinum about it. For example this rule won't effect bronze at all, it would light up 9 elements in Silver, 6 in gold and 4 in Platinum. This way new players still would be able to play the "full" game.

[Selvaria]

Mono: 0 additional points (color of the oracle card)
Duo: 4 additional points
Trio: 5 additional points
4-6 used elements: 12 additional points
7-12 used elements: 20 additional points

This will turn many of the bronze league deck mono fire rush, mono emerald rush or mono aether.  The problem is not really duo or trio, its mainly rainbow.

SoGs in every deck is boring too. Actually I think supernova is a bit OP as a card (the unupped one is fine) but that's another thing though.

[SnoWeb]

If anything needs to be done to these brain-fart Rainbow decks, I'd like to see yet another Skill added for giving limits on how many Elements you can use. My idea would basically work like Wisdom Skill, but instead of buying more upped cards for deck, you'd use Skill points to buy more Elements:
0 points = Mono,
2 points = Duo,
4 points = Trio,
6 points = Quartet,
 ... 
22 points = Full Rainbow.

This is interesting.
+1 for Zse's idea.