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Not using oracle card in arena? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37321.msg468800#msg468800
« on: March 08, 2012, 06:18:43 pm »
Hi there :)
i just discovered this great game about a month ago. Now I'm recently farming bronze arena to collect rares, especially shards.
There it often happens to me that my opponents deck don't use his/her oracle card, they just havent any quanta needed to play it in their decks.
Now my question:

What is it good for to have 5 dead cards in your deck?

Just meant as suggestion to deck building noobs like me ^^

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Re: Not using oracle card in arena? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37321.msg468802#msg468802
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2012, 06:24:53 pm »
No, nothing wrong with your question. It's bad to have dead cards in your deck. The people who made those decks just did not have the card collection to make good use of their oracle cards. In fact, I am guilty of doing this in my very beginning noob days. I only had like 100 cards and 2 decks (mono darkness and mono aether) so when I got a card like unstable gas, I just stuck it in my ai3 farmer to gain the miniscule money you get for arena.

Fortunately I bought every unupped card as soon as I had the money so I never have dead cards anymore.

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Re: Not using oracle card in arena? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37321.msg468806#msg468806
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2012, 06:33:15 pm »
I'm sometimes intentionally not using those cards, despite it resulting into dead cards.
It's because decks using it perform worse, despite the advantage of using the entire deck. For example in the platinum decks I build I'd rather build a mono Darkness with dead cards than a deck built around "Thorn Carapace" (or almost any other shield) or "Flooding".

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Re: Not using oracle card in arena? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37321.msg468807#msg468807
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2012, 06:41:02 pm »
I'm sometimes intentionally not using those cards, despite it resulting into dead cards.
It's because decks using it perform worse, despite the advantage of using the entire deck. For example in the platinum decks I build I'd rather build a mono Darkness with dead cards than a deck built around "Thorn Carapace" (or almost any other shield) or "Flooding".
You can usually just stick whatever 5 oracle cards you have into a discord/black hole/purify rainbow and it will work well without dead cards. Unfortunately a lot of rainbows are like this.

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Re: Not using oracle card in arena? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37321.msg468812#msg468812
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2012, 07:06:34 pm »
You can also dilute the effect of five dead cards by making a larger deck.  That has its own problems, but if you have 5/60 dead cards, it's less likely you'll get stuck with them than if you have 5/30 dead cards.  These days, I'll build a deck around almost anything, though, and I try to make them as unique as possible without really caring how well they do, as long as they can do well enough not to drop out of the top 500.  Mind you, I have the luxury of having played long enough that I own most of the upgraded cards, so I'm never stuck in a case where I can't make a deck around something due to lack of upped cards.  I just like using the card and seeing how good (or bad!) of a deck I can make with whatever card.

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Re: Not using oracle card in arena? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37321.msg468880#msg468880
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2012, 12:00:47 am »
Hi there :)
i just discovered this great game about a month ago. Now I'm recently farming bronze arena to collect rares, especially shards.
There it often happens to me that my opponents deck don't use his/her oracle card, they just havent any quanta needed to play it in their decks.
Now my question:

What is it good for to have 5 dead cards in your deck?

Just meant as suggestion to deck building noobs like me ^^
Either they don't have the money to buy the cards needed to make a deck that revolves around the oracle card, or they feel like being annoying and putting up their regular deck. Sure, it has 5 dead cards, but if it's mono aether, even with 5 dead cards, it can still kill you if you didn't pack PC. Additionally, rainbow decks can easily slip in 5 cards of an element, and there are many arena decks that are just standard rainbows+5 of the oracle cards, resulting in oraclebows.

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Re: Not using oracle card in arena? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37321.msg468901#msg468901
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2012, 01:07:59 am »
Ah, I see. That's a reason I haven't thought of.  ;D

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Re: Not using oracle card in arena? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37321.msg469403#msg469403
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2012, 08:31:52 pm »
*sigh* If anything, make an oraclebow with the card and some others that go with it well.
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