Underworld's Decks

[Sevs]

Just played a few games with shriekers and decided I like the quantum variety more.
Partly because I don't really trust that the entropy pends will show up early enough to make a difference and partially because I want to make sure the spirits get fed.
I think an RT in place of flying weapon could be a significant help with the denial, makes up for the potentially later discord, and is affordable.

if you are going to take out a flying weapon you might as well take out another discord and replace it with something maybe a blessing to give a ore reliable start to the growth creatures.

[LongDono]

Ok here are our decks. ( not final )
Graboid of the past
2 Scamble shrikers
Trap
Entropy/darkness ( Nightmare one )
Immo
FFQ
Air death

We will not use the second Entropy/darkness.
Also with the Graboid of the past deck take out hourglasses and add 1 BB and 1 RT. Keep golems, when upped they will be even stronger.

Tell me if you agree....
So in addition to those changes add 1 eternity, 1 flying weapon, 1 angel, 2 lycans, 2 dis shields, 2 fog shield, 2 purify, 1 labo, 3 deflags, 2 steals, 2 Titanium shields, 1 wings, 2 mummy, 1 shockwave, 1 anti-matter, 1 Graviton fire eater, 3 novas, 3 Sanctuaries, 2 fractal, 1 Phase spider, 2 Momentums, 2 Protect artifact, 1 Pulvy, 1 Oyt, 1 Owls Eye, 1 Arsenic, 3 Quint, 1 titan, 1 freeze, 1 chaos seed.

Changes ( also yes purify was in there before. )
-1 Trap deck
+1 FFQ deck
-1 Titanium shield
-1 eternity
-1 fire spirit
-1 fractal
+1 fog shield
+1 Titan
+1 Freeze
+1 Chaos seed


More changes?
I made these changes to try and reflect the trouble with stalls comments and a few other problems.

[Sevs]

so far the decks are

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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vd 4vd 4ve 4vf 4vf 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vn 50u 50u 50u 5up 5v1 5v1 5v1 8pt

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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vm 52q 52q 55t 55t 55t 590 590 590 595 595 595 596 596 5c1 5fb 5og 5v0 5v0 5v0 8pm

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58o 58o 58q 58q 58s 58s 590 590 590 593 593 593 595 595 5rk 5rk 5rk 5ru 5ru 5ru 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 8pm

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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vl 4vl 4vl 52t 55q 590 590 590 593 593 593 5c1 5c1 5f6 5f6 5og 5oi 5v1 61q 61q 8pm

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4vh 4vh 4vi 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vn 52q 52t 52t 55q 55q 55r 55s 55u 58s 58s 58v 592 592 5f6 5f6 5f6 5i7 5ia 5ia 5le 5lm 5lm 5lm 5og 5og 5oi 5ol 5on 5oo 5ro 5up 5up 61u 621 621 621 622 622
EDIT* Everything here is up to date
The devourers cant be added because, DOTK is 33 cards so 3 less had to be taken out







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[phaedrus]

What are your thoughts on/concerns about DOTK?
Just not strong enough to justify taking only 1 scrambled shriekers?
I'm working on a stall busting ffq mod, but as I said before I don't like our chances there. Even with an enchanted eternity and a photon I think we may be short on time.

Extra cards are looking good.
I'll eat my words on the "we should take 9 decks" front because could make a pretty solid deck out of that if we needed to with conversions.
My preference in terms of changes would be.
-diss shields (or maybe explain why we need them?), - a weapon or two (I don't see us needing all of those?), -Oty (only if there is a card that is definitely stronger) + Devos (could throw a different denial together pretty easily),
+Novas, + A Lava golem if possible.

Its looking really good though.
 

[LongDono]

Ok here are our decks. ( not final )
Graboid of the past
Scamble shrikers
Trap
Entropy/darkness ( Nightmare one )
Immo
FFQ
Air death
DOTK

We will not use the second Entropy/darkness.
Also with the Graboid of the past deck take out hourglasses and add 1 BB and 1 RT. Keep golems, when upped they will be even stronger.

Tell me if you agree....
So in addition to those changes add 1 eternity, 1 flying weapon, 1 angel, 2 lycans, 3 devourer, 2 fog shield, 2 purify, 1 labo, 3 deflags, 2 steals, 2 Titanium shields, 1 wings, 2 mummy, 1 shockwave, 1 anti-matter, 1 Graviton fire eater, 3 novas, 3 Sanctuaries, 2 fractal, 2 Momentums, 2 Protect artifact, 1 Pulvy, 1 Oyt, 1 Owls Eye, 1 Arsenic, 3 Quint, 1 titan, 1 freeze, 1 chaos seed.

Changes ( also yes purify was in there before. )
-1 Trap deck
+1 FFQ deck
-1 Titanium shield
-1 eternity
-1 fire spirit
-1 fractal
+1 fog shield
+1 Titan
+1 Freeze
+1 Chaos seed


More changes?
I made these changes to try and reflect the trouble with stalls comments and a few other problems.

More changes.
-1 phase spider, -2 dis shields
+ 3 devourers.
-1 Scramble Shriker
+1 DOTK

Any more changes?

[Sevs]

- a weapon or two (I don't see us needing all of those?), -Oty (only if there is a card that is definitely stronger) + Devos (could throw a different denial together pretty easily),
+Novas, + A Lava golem if possible.

Its looking really good though Long.
 

the "vault" post is updates


We could do -oty -lobo -chaos seed +3 dev's  (if we wanted lobo shouldn't we just go with mind flayer chaos seed also seems to be too random to help and oty with only 3 HP doesnt let it eat much)
and possibly - wings +lava golem (i dont see wings good with only 1)

[phaedrus]

Its not really like we're -3 because of OTK because if it loses we get to keep 3 cards from it.
At least as far as I know we will only ever have to discard 30 cards.
So basically we can keep the enchant artifacts or hourglasses and they would be part of our vault moving forwards.

Chaos seed could be usefull as an immo mod but I don't really need it.
Oty could be usefull in a Lt. or Gen. deck. don't know if that justifies taking it.
I agree that lobo is a weak card to take when we could be spending aether quanta on quint or frac.
I'm on the fence about the -wings, +lava golem mod.

I really hope we get a good match up for the OTK in round 5.

[tttt]

No stall decks?
stay in chat whenever possible pls

[LongDono]

A few cards are in the vault because upgraded they are better, but oyt can be used unupped against certain foes, like Napalm. Because eating pheonix over and over again is funny and you can do things to make oyt better.
I am keeping that extra wings. Remember we have 3 in another deck. We could very well see a need for a 4th.
Chaos seed is very cheap CC in an element that could be used for nothing else in a rainbow or be the mark for the rainbow, and upped it adds new possiblities.
Labo dose 5 damage for 3 quanta, and Flayer dose 2 for 2. I might add one in anyways though, thanks for reminding me.
I will continue to give thought to everything that was said. I just woke up not so long ago so idk.

[Aitvaras]

Hej. I'd like something to be put in the vault here today, I'm unsure if maybe you all are expecting that is my role, but I think Vault organiser is mostly about updating it between rounds.

I can put whatever in the vault though in the next 4 hours. Dunno if Long will be on but I need some form of permission for him for any decisions, he does lead the vault discussion. I wont be on tomorrow much since its kinda a party hardy day for me.

At this point I'd agree with anything to fill those 288 cards. I think our 200ish posts discussing this all should have brought forth all our opinions etc. by now and its just time to put in numbers and role with it.

[LongDono]

Ok I thought it was aitvaras job to do that, ok I will create our vault.
I think we have made it good enough and it has changed alot, *remembers my first example vault* We should now start to think about how and when to use our extra cards.

[LongDono]

Ok I read the role rules and I am not 100% sure but the starting vault is not really talked about. It should be like any other round we jsut have to get our vault up.
Also I forgot it uses google docs, my computer hates google docs and is really slow with it. It would take a stupid amount of time for me to use it to get our entire vault.
So Aitvaras or sevs could you please update the vault? It says the vault org is the one that will do it most of the time but I think we all have the ability to change the vault. ( tell me if I am wrong. )
Out vault will be the 8 decks and
these extras
1 eternity, 1 flying weapon, 1 angel, 2 lycans, 2 fog shield, 2 purify, 1 labo, 3 deflags, 2 steals, 2 Titanium shields, 1 wings, 2 mummy, 1 shockwave, 1 anti-matter, 1 Graviton fire eater, 3 novas, 3 Sanctuaries, 2 fractal, 2 Momentums, 2 Protect artifact, 1 Pulvy, 1 Oyt, 1 Owls Eye, 1 Arsenic, 3 Quint, 1 titan, 1 freeze, 1 chaos seed.