Round 9 - Decks

[Neopergoss]

We've got our work cut out for us here.
Higs, Napalm, and kevkev.

The good news though is that aether also has really tough matchups.

The event card is good for us, too. They may choose to devote their upped cards to another match.

[phaedrus]

OP has been updated.

Another option is air/death vs. fire (solid-ish rush busting) and scorp bow with novas vs. aether (beats shielding).
Questions there would be: Can 3 arsenics with a late rush can beat firestall? Can we deal with a rush from aether? Or BHs? etc.
 

[LifeLockable]

I dont think air/death would work well against firestall, simply because it doesnt take much to chainbolt for the kill and the sword is painful, plus poison doesnt work real well against sanc

[phaedrus]

I have tested air/death a bit against firestall AI (which played it badly), and went about 60/40. With the wins depending on early arsenics/poisons and Fahrenheit getting shielded. I would actually probably be more worried about a mid-speed rush with pheonixes, CC and/or deflags.

I think the matchups we have now are probably better, but its up for debate.

[LifeLockable]

well if you really want to test vs firestall you can play me PvP and i will use the firestall

[ShiningSword]

That fractix could need some healing(to soften a little the poison).
God we need to get a purify somewhere if we want to get through the war.

[LongDono]

This is stupid, Napalm will rush us! DON'T test vs firestall, we can have all the "buts" in the world but at the end of the day we are most likely right. KILL RUSH!
Lets go with what they will most likely play and not what we fear they will play. Fear makes us doubt ourselves, it is the reason I ended up running a bad deck vs Neo in the finals of the UW tournament.

Fire will play rush of some kind.
Aether will play the BH's to thier advantage, or play something we did not see coming.
If we try to counter everything we become weaker vs whats likely to be played, this is a mistake with our current situation.
We have less than 7 hours I believe.

[tttt]

We have almost 2 days, whats with the urgent PMs LD? Once the deck builder and the duelists figure out what decks they want I'll update the discard/salvage.

[Neopergoss]

We have no purify, so death would be very dangerous, especially in a poison stall.
Any ideas on that?
I will also post my anti bonebolt prototype again:

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Wouldn't novas go well in here?

[phaedrus]

Ya, not sure what you're smoking Long.

We tested vs. firestall because its a possibility, and the deck held its own (with help from early arsenic).
I see no reason why testing vs. all the possible opponents with a deck built for a specific scenario is a bad idea.
I agree Napalm will probably rush and the deck is built to deal with that as best as possible.

We could definitely do +sanc or miracle on the fractix. We may be ok with only 11 pillars or -deflag there.
Will wait to hear from Sevs on his preference.

@Neo,
That deck you posted isn't in use right now. (Poisons and bone wall are in air/death.)
If you meant to copy the deck Life currently has, then ya, novas could be useful there. 
It has a few balance issues yet (mostly with light quanta), and when this is the case its a bit safer (IMO) to go a bit quanta heavy long term, rather than get the balance from novas.

[ShiningSword]

As aether has plenty of rush counters, fire will try to use their single stall on them(to avoid getting completely countered).
I believe the importance of making the anti fire deck only against rushes is that then we can make a better anti poison stall against death(using neurotoxin and healing could work better against them considering their dim shield option and the fact we have low PC, while our fractix can get both outrushed and stalled because it is slow to setup and has low defences).

[Neopergoss]

@Neo,
That deck you posted isn't in use right now. (Poisons and bone wall are in air/death.
If you meant to copy the deck Life currently has, then ya, novas could be useful there. 
It has a few balance issues yet (mostly with light quanta), and when this is the case its a bit safer (IMO) to go a bit quanta heavy long term, rather than get the balance from novas.

That's true. Could we maybe replace the blessing with another momentum? Maybe Sevs could replace his momentum with a deflag or something?