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Re: Round 8 Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26879.msg341838#msg341838
« Reply #24 on: May 28, 2011, 04:38:13 am »
we have blessings? and that deck I think would fail hard if we are wrong...I'll try it out


btw this is the deck I cam up with the stall that could out last the immortal yet could possibly beat the other two

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Do we need to be using giant decks when we have eternity? can't we just juggle a lycan until they run out of cards?

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Re: Round 8 Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26879.msg341839#msg341839
« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2011, 04:39:48 am »
Its the 3 time per rewind that I'm worried about.
With a 10 turn stall thats 30 time quanta.

I think your deck is a bit low on quanta production life. A big CC deck with wings could actually be an option though.

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Re: Round 8 Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26879.msg341840#msg341840
« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2011, 04:40:58 am »
thats true LOL I didnt think about that...

how bout this?
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Re: Round 8 Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26879.msg341842#msg341842
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2011, 04:42:43 am »
well its not that badd actually the deck only uses what 15  :time to play the cards? and with no PC the QP's might just grace me with time that I need

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Re: Round 8 Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26879.msg341843#msg341843
« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2011, 04:43:51 am »
Its the 3 time per rewind that I'm worried about.
With a 10 turn stall thats 30 time quanta.
With 10 QPs you make over 3 time quanta per turn on average. I've played with an eternity stall like that I made earlier (the one with mark of light, sancs, and miracles) and was able to deck out even 60 card decks routinely. Keep in mind you have a long time to stockpile time quanta before you start playing eternity as well. There are no EQs in the immortal.

I would consider my version's lower use of time quanta to be a slight advantage in this case, but only slight. I think the immortal is worth planning for, but it's just one of many decks. There's a greater chance that they'll use one of the 2 decks with RTs or something new.

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Re: Round 8 Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26879.msg341847#msg341847
« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2011, 04:47:35 am »
so do you want me to make the deck 10 QP's?

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Re: Round 8 Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26879.msg341850#msg341850
« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2011, 04:50:04 am »
so do you want me to make the deck 10 QP's?
You know, I forgot that it didn't already have 10 QPs. Actually now that I think about it 10 QPs generate slightly less than 3 time per turn but it works because like I said you save up for a while before you start juggling. Umm...Not sure if it will work with 3 novas and 7 QPs, let me test it.

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Re: Round 8 Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26879.msg341851#msg341851
« Reply #31 on: May 28, 2011, 04:52:07 am »
I can test it.., I already am

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Re: Round 8 Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26879.msg341853#msg341853
« Reply #32 on: May 28, 2011, 04:54:38 am »
The novas are important vs. EQs. So its a bit of a risk either way.
After thinking a bit more, I think you're probably right about the eternity quanta Neo.
I would still be a bit uneasy with a weak pillar draw though.

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Re: Round 8 Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26879.msg341859#msg341859
« Reply #33 on: May 28, 2011, 05:09:42 am »
The novas are important vs. EQs. So its a bit of a risk either way.
After thinking a bit more, I think you're probably right about the eternity quanta Neo.
I would still be a bit uneasy with a weak pillar draw though.
It only lasted 43 turns with 7 QPs. We could have 10 QPs and also include novas maybe? I don't know.

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Re: Round 8 Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26879.msg341865#msg341865
« Reply #34 on: May 28, 2011, 05:26:00 am »
The novas are important vs. EQs. So its a bit of a risk either way.
After thinking a bit more, I think you're probably right about the eternity quanta Neo.
I would still be a bit uneasy with a weak pillar draw though.
It only lasted 43 turns with 7 QPs. We could have 10 QPs and also include novas maybe? I don't know.
I should point out i see 8 lol
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Re: Round 8 Earth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26879.msg341868#msg341868
« Reply #35 on: May 28, 2011, 05:31:32 am »
The novas are important vs. EQs. So its a bit of a risk either way.
After thinking a bit more, I think you're probably right about the eternity quanta Neo.
I would still be a bit uneasy with a weak pillar draw though.
It only lasted 43 turns with 7 QPs. We could have 10 QPs and also include novas maybe? I don't know.
I should point out i see 8 lol
I think 8 has a pretty good chance of working. I tested 7 and it barely fell short. Won't be a sure thing but I'd be confident in it. I'll test it a bunch of times with 8.

 

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