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Round 8 Salvage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17824.msg227348#msg227348
« on: December 18, 2010, 02:39:05 pm »
So, ak65 won his battle, and this is our salvage from his match:
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4vi 52q 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f6 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5gi 5gi 61o 61o 61o 61o 622 622 622 622 63a 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7dsAnd this is what we have left in our vault:
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52j 52j 52q 52q 52t 5f6 5oi 5oi 5oi 5ol 5oo 5roDiscuss.
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Re: Round 8 Salvage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17824.msg227419#msg227419
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2010, 05:41:11 pm »
If ji412jo win's his match (maybe even if he loses). I can see a fractal phoenix deck of ourselves. 3x Immolation, 2x Phoenix, 1x Fractal mark of aether and we have one fractal & 2xdeflag of our own. If ji wins and we get some fire cards and get phoenix / fire pendulums etc. , we definetly can make it.
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Re: Round 8 Salvage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17824.msg227427#msg227427
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2010, 05:56:07 pm »
Some deck like below is already possible.

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- Immolate a devourer or phoenix.
- More leaning towards fire.
- Heavy permanent control. Mark of aether to speed fractal. Cool immolates are also counted as an extra nova as they give all other quantas too.
- More of a speedbow compared to our current control based rainbow. But it still has good chunk of control cards.
- Fractal a devourer or a phoenix depending on the situation, devourer if you believe you can deny quanta, phoenix if you believe you can rush.
- I tested this deck against ai3 for half an hour. Working like a charm.
- If ji412jo wins against fire and gets some fire quanta source, we can get the 3rd fractal instead of an immolation from this deck.
- Please tell your thoughts about this, and say if we should switch any more cards.


@ak65ala: I just wanted to give you an option, you will decide in the end.

Edit: Changed the deck a little. Wings instead of antimatter.
Edit 2: Added a flying weapon & reverse time. Found out steal is slightly better than deflag, quantawise. Devourers giving darkness anyway, fire quanta is better used on phoenix & golem.
Edit3: Getting 2nd deflag, presence of arsenic, choosing between 3rd immolation vs 3rd phoenix, presence of flying weapon and amount of quantum pillars are all optional. We can also go 30+ cards which is an advantage against decking out but also a risky disadvantage as it reduce the chances to draw key cards.
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Re: Round 8 Salvage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17824.msg227472#msg227472
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2010, 06:31:44 pm »
Remember, we can build a deck of more than 30 cards.  I would say add 1 flying weapon and maybe a forest spirit.
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Re: Round 8 Salvage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17824.msg227479#msg227479
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2010, 06:35:33 pm »
Remember, we can build a deck of more than 30 cards.  I would say add 1 flying weapon and maybe a forest spirit.
Yeah right, flying weapon makes sense. And reverse time is golden too. We can just throw away Steal to get a flying weapon & reverse time.

Edit: I would like to add that this deck requires less quanta source compared to control rainbow. We can even think of replacing a quantum pillar. Needs testing tho.
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Re: Round 8 Salvage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17824.msg227525#msg227525
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2010, 07:20:36 pm »
- If ji412jo wins against fire and gets some fire quanta source, we can get the 3rd fractal instead of an immolation from this deck.
ji412jo is against entopy, not fire.  We'll see if he wins or loses, and I want to see who we are up against the next round and what the other matcups are before I look too deeply at this all.  Good work.

Edit:  Looking at it, it looks solid.  If entropy still has a heavy anti rainbow deck (the one I think ji will hit this round) and I go against them next round... we need to make the best deck to resist that.  This one looks to have a better shot then our disrupt-bow.  Reserving judgement till round 9 starts.

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Re: Round 8 Salvage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17824.msg227554#msg227554
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2010, 07:50:16 pm »
Oh my, such confusion. Me and jijo even tested againt entropy's BH deck earlier lol. I think i wanted his opponent to be fire so much to use their cards :))
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