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Re: Round 8 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26878.msg342524#msg342524
« Reply #48 on: May 29, 2011, 04:18:04 am »
yup...and if I get wings early then its a shoe in that I win xD

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Re: Round 8 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26878.msg342528#msg342528
« Reply #49 on: May 29, 2011, 05:04:01 am »
Glad Sevs and Life are liking their decks so much.

@Long,
2 turns earlier with MP only give an advantage of 8 damage. The unupped pheonixes make up for that difference in 3 turns.
It just doesn't hit nearly as hard in my mind with MP.
I will continue to recommend unupped. 

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Re: Round 8 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26878.msg342625#msg342625
« Reply #50 on: May 29, 2011, 01:30:04 pm »
Glad Sevs and Life are liking their decks so much.

@Long,
2 turns earlier with MP only give an advantage of 8 damage. The unupped pheonixes make up for that difference in 3 turns.
It just doesn't hit nearly as hard in my mind with MP.
I will continue to recommend unupped.
If you factor in the cost of draws, unupped phoenix is more efficient. The only time minor phoenix is much better that I'm aware of is when you fractal it, minimizing the cost of drawing it. I'd prefer adding more quanta in fact than upping the phoenix. But I still think the deck is strong.

On another note, has anyone checked to make sure these decks all jive with our vault? I'm not aware of any problems, but don't we need to update the vault soon?

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Re: Round 8 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26878.msg342635#msg342635
« Reply #51 on: May 29, 2011, 02:12:52 pm »
1 immo = the cost of 1 pheonix. If you don't have immo and only 6 pillers/pends to depend on then it is a dead card for a while.
1 immo = the cost of all 3 minor pheonix.
1-2 pillers = 1 Minor pheonix in 1-2 turns.

Minor pheonix can be summoned within 2 turns of drawing it 90%+ of the time. Pheonix is no where near that. Also if I draw 2 Pheonix then I need 2 immos to summon both.
Minor Pheonix makes this deck LESS combo based and thus harder to counter.
Also remember we only have 3 main targets for immo anyways, to depend on immo alone to get one of your main cards out if foolish.
I play tested with MP's and they are better. I know I can get them out, pheonix is too much of a gamble. Also remember that lava golems are in this deck, playing MP allows for them to be summoned with immo too.

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Re: Round 8 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26878.msg342656#msg342656
« Reply #52 on: May 29, 2011, 03:40:58 pm »
Changed my deck in the first post. Why arsenic? Because we have only 1 vampire weapon and Sevs is playing it.
I tested alot and MP is the way to go. Do not change that!

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Re: Round 8 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26878.msg342659#msg342659
« Reply #53 on: May 29, 2011, 03:58:37 pm »
So LD will use the immorush and not use the pendulums from the event?

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Re: Round 8 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26878.msg342666#msg342666
« Reply #54 on: May 29, 2011, 04:23:40 pm »
RIGHT NOW OUR DECKS ARE NOT LEGAL.
The pandas, momentums, scorps and stiletto were all in the same deck and we can only salvage 9 of the 10.
My suggestion is that we don`t salvage the stilleto and put a rage in Sevs`s deck.

@tttt
Thats the plan. We`re still going to salvage air pends/ get some from the event so that we can use the air/death next round hopefully.


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Re: Round 8 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26878.msg342671#msg342671
« Reply #55 on: May 29, 2011, 04:29:59 pm »
Wait didn't we already have the vampire weapon? Must have been in a deck that lost that round.
I agree phaedrus. I will make the change soon here.
- vampire weapon + rage pot.
T4 could you mod the salvage and discard thread now?

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Re: Round 8 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26878.msg342674#msg342674
« Reply #56 on: May 29, 2011, 04:32:39 pm »
Shoot I am out of it. The rage pot is in another deck. ( lifes ) So I can't add it to sevs!
Phaedrus if you know a solution feel free to make a post with the changes so I can copy and paste.

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Re: Round 8 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26878.msg342768#msg342768
« Reply #57 on: May 29, 2011, 07:35:24 pm »
A deflag would work in either one of the decks

and the stiletto can be replaced by a QP too if it is necesary.

also to add more CC to it can i +shockwave - graboid.  With some phoenixs lobod i find it hard to kill it again.
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Re: Round 8 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26878.msg342801#msg342801
« Reply #58 on: May 29, 2011, 08:26:31 pm »
In addition to the rage potion scenario, we also have too many nightmares (I think).

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Re: Round 8 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26878.msg342840#msg342840
« Reply #59 on: May 29, 2011, 09:52:46 pm »
Nope nightmares are fine.

 

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