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Re: Round 6 - salvage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16945.msg219013#msg219013
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2010, 08:11:00 pm »
do you think we will face a rainbow? dont think bh would work well in this deck, cause no discord... but i will test it
Yeah. I don't see how 1 BH is good against a mono / duo deck without having any discords. I would only consider 1xMiracle against the 2nd fog shield in this deck.
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Re: Round 6 - salvage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16945.msg219141#msg219141
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2010, 10:57:10 pm »
About time we listen to me now?
How about what i said earlier? take the deck with the fractal and the ffq
-maxwell
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+2 BH
+1 miracle
so this deck yould have a spirit, which is pretty good, and a fish which goes with the air
the maxwell can be kept in the other if needed
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Re: Round 6 - salvage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16945.msg219203#msg219203
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2010, 12:18:05 am »
I agree.  Move the BH into that deck because of its discord, and move 1-2 cards out of it into this one.
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Re: Round 6 - salvage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16945.msg219216#msg219216
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2010, 12:39:25 am »
Without Maxwell AND fish, rainbow deck will have zero creature control.

- Maxwell's demon can't fit in this air themed deck. It would only be useful as QP.
- Fish can take place of a vampire which in turn can be converted to QP and BH could go in rainbow deck.
- Spirit can take place of rage potion which in turn can be converted to QP and we can get 2nd BH or miracle for rainbow deck.

This leaves only 1xGolem & 1xFFQ as real damage source for the rainbow deck, making this deck even slower than it was and carrying a very high risk of decking out or just being overwhelmed by enemy creatures. Removing both the fish & spirit is overdoing it (spirit won us a game). Air deck has tons of cc, it definetly doesn't need the poison fish would bring to table, but it could use its 6 attack. Getting miracle into rainbow deck could be a good idea and 1xBH could take place of a QP. It wouldn't be wise to dump fish & spirit together.


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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4vd 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vl 4vl 4vn 55v 593 593 5c1 5f6 5fa 5li 5og 5oj 5rk 5um 5um 5um 5up 621 622
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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 5f6 5f6 5ie 5oc 5oc 5of 5og 5og 5ol 5ol 5on 5on 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5ut 61t 61t 61v 620 620 63a

Here is the quick maths if i'm not mistaken:


Salvage:
Mark of fire deck:
4x Air Pendulum
1x Azure Dragon
1x Deflagration

Mark of Light Deck:
2x Phase Recluse
2x Dimensional shield
1x Phase Dragon
1x Aether Pendulum

QP Conversions:
1x Black Hole
1x Fahrenheit
2x Rage Potion
1x Miracle
1x Minor Vampire

into
6x Quantum Pillars

Swaps
Swap 1x Quantum pillar from rainbow deck to Air deck
Swap 1x Toadfish from rainbow deck to Air deck

Use from vault for air deck:
2x Owl's eye
2x Shockwave
2x Wind Pillar
2x Fog Shield
1x Minor Vampire
1x Deflagration

Use from vault for rainbow deck:
1x Black Hole
1x Miracle
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Re: Round 6 - salvage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16945.msg219437#msg219437
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2010, 11:45:28 am »
you seem to forget i have used this deck and have tested it multiple times, oh and whatever i dont care anymore
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Re: Round 6 - salvage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16945.msg219534#msg219534
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2010, 03:48:05 pm »
you seem to forget i have used this deck and have tested it multiple times, oh and whatever i dont care anymore
Chill, i'm not your enemy and i didn't say anything offensive. whats with the endless angry attitude ? I didn't interfere and waited a few days for you people to post a deck you like but all people were doing was posting "do something" messages, so i spent several hours to make a working deck just to help victory.

I'm making detailed posts about my reasonings & vault calculations. If you don't like it, you don't use it. How can you possibly be offended by that ?
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Re: Round 6 - salvage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16945.msg219590#msg219590
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2010, 05:31:14 pm »
im with that... stop being so angry, ji4... dont know why we got such an explosive atmosphere here...
i like the ideas hain posted... and yes, of course its better cause of its detailed posts...

but the most problem, that there is NO CONVERSATION!!! its like "i think this, what do you think?" "i think this, take it" "oh no, i think this!!!! its much better"... try to communicate, what is better, or why would you dont like an idea... blabla... dont know where your activity is gone... we need that now!!!
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no offence to a specific guy... its more a suggestion of our team, but i dont know why... come on guys!!! lets fight this as we can, good!
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Re: Round 6 - salvage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16945.msg219647#msg219647
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2010, 07:39:23 pm »
I think that what haink posted is what we should do for the final decks.  We also need to decide who gets which deck.
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Re: Round 6 - salvage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16945.msg219721#msg219721
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2010, 09:26:44 pm »
Please recheck if i'm correct with vault calculations. And i suppose QP conversions should be reported to warmasters.
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Re: Round 6 - salvage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16945.msg219739#msg219739
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2010, 09:54:08 pm »
Ok, this is my last match, you better put someone else for 2nd place next round because i will not play anymore.
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Re: Round 6 - salvage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16945.msg220053#msg220053
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2010, 05:30:34 am »
i dont get it... whats your problem??? talk to us and be a bit more what your position in leadership should be! youre our ltd! not a bad guy who has to say each what he wants cause it has no consequences...
you know what? if thats your last statement for this, you should think of this, why you get it not in a team during auction... perhaps you should try to speak about what your problem is and not only bring that bad atmosphere in... i thought you are one of us, who will get underworld to a very good war, but now, you try to break things cause of your arrogance! thats not what underworld stands for!
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Re: Round 6 - salvage https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16945.msg220381#msg220381
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2010, 07:15:35 pm »
Spielkind, would you please report the vault accordingly tomorrow ? That is of course if there aren't any other ideas by then.
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