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Re: Round 5 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25768.msg329573#msg329573
« Reply #36 on: May 08, 2011, 05:43:18 pm »
I might be able to use the mummy upgrade later in war. I do not have cheat codes to give me unlimited electrum after all. :P lol

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Re: Round 5 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25768.msg329581#msg329581
« Reply #37 on: May 08, 2011, 06:07:09 pm »
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Right now I feel like Shinings mod makes better use of fog.
If we want to give you one then Shining's mod could only take one.
Not a dealbreaker, but just something to think about.
I see why you're concerned about the final blow, but basically they would need to shield enough to stall discord enough to be able to pay for that.
We have 3 purple dragons but one is in DOTK.
Also, the deck already has a lot of CC. Owls eye and shockwave kinda feel like overkill.
Lets keep considering it though.
Point taken. I feel my matchup is the worst, might as well give the other the best chance they have. I do believe fog, EE and Flying Weapon would make the deck stand a better chance against  :death, but if it means crapping on other people's chances I don't mind playing as it is now xD

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Re: Round 5 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25768.msg329661#msg329661
« Reply #38 on: May 08, 2011, 09:00:49 pm »
@tttt
Right now I feel like Shinings mod makes better use of fog.
If we want to give you one then Shining's mod could only take one.
Not a dealbreaker, but just something to think about.
I see why you're concerned about the final blow, but basically they would need to shield enough to stall discord enough to be able to pay for that.
We have 3 purple dragons but one is in DOTK.
Also, the deck already has a lot of CC. Owls eye and shockwave kinda feel like overkill.
Lets keep considering it though.
Point taken. I feel my matchup is the worst, might as well give the other the best chance they have. I do believe fog, EE and Flying Weapon would make the deck stand a better chance against  :death, but if it means crapping on other people's chances I don't mind playing as it is now xD
Dont worry, i can play with one fog, i will just steal one of my opponent's shields if i need an extra copy.
I can always add some other of the stall cards we have if i feel like i need them.

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Re: Round 5 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25768.msg329890#msg329890
« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2011, 04:19:23 am »
@tttt
Right now I feel like Shinings mod makes better use of fog.
If we want to give you one then Shining's mod could only take one.
Not a dealbreaker, but just something to think about.
I see why you're concerned about the final blow, but basically they would need to shield enough to stall discord enough to be able to pay for that.
We have 3 purple dragons but one is in DOTK.
Also, the deck already has a lot of CC. Owls eye and shockwave kinda feel like overkill.
Lets keep considering it though.
Point taken. I feel my matchup is the worst, might as well give the other the best chance they have. I do believe fog, EE and Flying Weapon would make the deck stand a better chance against  :death, but if it means crapping on other people's chances I don't mind playing as it is now xD
Dont worry, i can play with one fog, i will just steal one of my opponent's shields if i need an extra copy.
I can always add some other of the stall cards we have if i feel like i need them.
i do believe we have sancs in there somewhere band is fueled extra by fireflies which also fuel miracle. and the steal should be quite useful in this as with pulvy.

Idk where this should be posted but here seems good. when you arrange matches post when, so we can be there to maybe give any advice if you need any or do a quick huddle for strategy.
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Re: Round 5 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25768.msg329898#msg329898
« Reply #40 on: May 09, 2011, 04:37:19 am »
After thinking and testing more, I'm leaning towards the air tweak vs. death.
Skull shield is a pretty solid quint counter and I feel like they are more likely to rush than use CC (help with strategy please?).
Was thinking also that the wings we have in vault could be a pretty useful addition as well.
So this is it +wings, -flying weapon. Maybe heavy on air, but perhaps worth it.
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Also, the scrambled shriekers deck could be modified into a purify rush to play against death (see spoiler) and we could play ent/dark vs. water. This may be a more solid option.
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As for the FFQ, what about +Oty? It would maybe get in the way of pulv, but fits really well otherwise.
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Re: Round 5 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25768.msg329929#msg329929
« Reply #41 on: May 09, 2011, 08:26:17 am »
After thinking and testing more, I'm leaning towards the air tweak vs. death.
Skull shield is a pretty solid quint counter and I feel like they are more likely to rush than use CC (help with strategy please?).
Was thinking also that the wings we have in vault could be a pretty useful addition as well.
So this is it +wings, -flying weapon. Maybe heavy on air, but perhaps worth it.
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Problem is, 2 discords and 1 EE and no flying weapon.

Also, matches are to ARRANGED and SPECTATED. More brains are better then one (none) brains XD

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Re: Round 5 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25768.msg329935#msg329935
« Reply #42 on: May 09, 2011, 08:42:10 am »
Ya, maybe the flying weapon is necessary.
I think wings could be a help though.
Maybe replace the shockwave?

If you comfortable-ish with the version you posted and don't think the potential swtich to a bow is any better, then I'll put that version up.

Agree that we should try to spectate and support each other as much as possible.


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Re: Round 5 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25768.msg329967#msg329967
« Reply #43 on: May 09, 2011, 12:51:50 pm »
Shockwave I put in the deck just as a random air card, it's not needed IMO. Didn't know what else to put as there was no 3rd dragon available :D

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Re: Round 5 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25768.msg330070#msg330070
« Reply #44 on: May 09, 2011, 05:19:42 pm »
Ok, so right now your deck is looking like this.
It should do well unless they bring something like pandebonium.
I feel priority of air cards would be fog>Wings>flying weapon>OE If the quanta is lacking and they're rushing.
If the quanta is there, then OE is the go to. I would maybe even play it on top of discord (ie, no flying weapon) in certain situations.
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Again, I'll post the purify rush bow (which I have changed somewhat since the last post). I still think it is worth considering vs. death.
With ent/dark then being played vs. water.
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Re: Round 5 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25768.msg330087#msg330087
« Reply #45 on: May 09, 2011, 06:01:17 pm »
Ok, so right now your deck is looking like this.
It should do well unless they bring something like pandebonium.
I feel priority of air cards would be fog>Wings>flying weapon>OE If the quanta is lacking and they're rushing.
If the quanta is there, then OE is the go to. I would maybe even play it on top of discord (ie, no flying weapon) in certain situations.
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I haven't had a chance to test this yet, but I'd be curious as to whether the OE is too expensive.

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Again, I'll post the purify rush bow (which I have changed somewhat since the last post). I still think it is worth considering vs. death.
With ent/dark then being played vs. water.
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I like this deck vs death. A lot of attackers + momentum is good vs bonewall and it has purifies to counter poison. Growing or high hp creatures are really resilient to infections (like from plague), too, especially with quint. I'd probably be most worried about an all-out death rush with tons of creatures, which seems unlikely, but I think this deck would have a chance even against that. I guess pandemonium could really hurt this, too, and there's always the risk of EQ...and probably there are more things I haven't thought of that they haven't used yet in war. The only reason I might not use this over the entropy one, though, is because of the risk of black hole.

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Re: Round 5 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25768.msg330091#msg330091
« Reply #46 on: May 09, 2011, 06:07:28 pm »
We have about 20 hours of deckbuilding left. I didn't know there was a rainbow available against  :death and I'm more inclined to use it instead of the duo from the looks of it, though I'll run some tests first.
It would suck against a panda/bonewall stall though XD

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Re: Round 5 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25768.msg330094#msg330094
« Reply #47 on: May 09, 2011, 06:10:32 pm »
Yes, OE is expensive.
If there is an early pend though I think it could get paid for. Haven't tested enough either.
Maybe +shockwave, -OE?

Ya, there are various ways death could counter the bow.
Less worried about panda because if that were the case then you could wait for a growth creature + momentum + quint (we could use 2 even?) and purify would be there to take care of poison. Black hole is definitely a cause for concern.

How do we feel about ent/dark vs water?
I think it would be a pretty good match up.

 

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