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Re: Round 11 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27590.msg351825#msg351825
« Reply #36 on: June 15, 2011, 06:44:34 pm »
Yup. Would've been nice to not have to sub last round.
Oh well.

Our fractix deck(s) usually only gets one chance to fractal. And if our MPs die en mass, we would likely have trouble reviving them all.

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Re: Round 11 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27590.msg351828#msg351828
« Reply #37 on: June 15, 2011, 06:49:56 pm »
Phaedrus: Yes we beat them when they used EQ's, but they thought we would play fractal, we played not fractal. They prolly think that we wont see EQ's coming again, they are just like that, and they DO most likely have EQ's. EQ destroyed us once, and we beat them once.

I really don't want to take the chance that they play EQ's. This late they will go for counters to finish us off. EQ is thier only known counter. If you guys feel fractal is better than the last round deck ( with mods ) then go for it, but remember they will have more than 1 bonewall, and even playing fractal higs could not legit beat me unless she god handed, and I only had 1 bonewall.
If we do go with fractal for the love of god play upped Graviton firemasters, MPs, and 2 Forest spirits upped. Those are the upped cards we should play.

3 MP's are a must, 1 Graviton Firemaster is a must, and 2 Forest spirits when combined with blessing on the first turn they are played are darn near unstoppable.

Tips and triack vs certain decks.
A: Don't be a dumbass vs bonewall. Wait until you can one shot the bonewall and get rid of it. Now if you think they have alot of lightnings stored up don't wait if you are low on health within lightning spam range.
B: Kill thier MP's the turn before they play fractal so they either have to wait a turn or play it on ash. ( If you play against Fractix. )
C: Don't be dumb vs EQ. Slow play, remember they have to waste 3 quanta to EQ your piller, so play one at a time. If you have alot of pillers get a stack of 2, and make it look like you got it off the draw to draw out thier EQ's.

Playing anything vs Aether is all about when you time it. If you are a fool and just randomly play stuff when you can you will lose. You get much higher chances when you stop and thinking about the timeing of your cards.

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Re: Round 11 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27590.msg351843#msg351843
« Reply #38 on: June 15, 2011, 07:03:36 pm »
Yup. Would've been nice to not have to sub last round.
Oh well.

Our fractix deck(s) usually only gets one chance to fractal. And if our MPs die en mass, we would likely have trouble reviving them all.
I'm of the opinion that we should use cremations in such a deck for the extra fire quanta to get more MP's out faster, to help play more deflags and rage pots, and to help revive MP's that die. Of course, multiple versions of the deck can be tested.

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Re: Round 11 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27590.msg352016#msg352016
« Reply #39 on: June 16, 2011, 12:46:13 am »
I think they are going with the nova graboid+EQ for reliability on the best of one.
If there was a fail draw on a fractix or a bonebolt(1-2 pillars/pends), they would be screwed, but graboids and EQ are cheap and can come out even without too many pends or novas.

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Re: Round 11 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27590.msg352030#msg352030
« Reply #40 on: June 16, 2011, 01:09:21 am »
Pretty much we are choosing between 2 styles of decks. cc heavy no fractal to counter graboids and EQ, or fractal to counter bonebolt and fractix possibly. there isnt really a counter to both so we must choose to go 1 route or the other.

EQ's are always suported with graboids as they are also earth. Unless they go phase dragons splashed with EQ's. done before against me in one of the rounds. either way a the deck like what we used last round should be successful against that.

Bonebolt and any stall/fractix are countered with a more pc approach and fractal.

2 styles of deck. I almost feel we need to just decide which approach to take and find the best deck in that category or which path would also give us a decent chance against the other.
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Re: Round 11 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27590.msg352037#msg352037
« Reply #41 on: June 16, 2011, 01:20:00 am »
well think about it...will they try and outrush fire and death or us? if we make up our minds about that the rest become easy...personally I would try and rush death for the easy win and send bonebolt against us...but thats just what i would do

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Re: Round 11 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27590.msg352039#msg352039
« Reply #42 on: June 16, 2011, 01:22:07 am »
They will save fractix for higs, this is common sense, so that rules it out, also we still have a panda, and other possible decks, and it is best of one. Fractix is too big a risk. Higs will play it though.
Bonebolt is possible but would be played against Entropy or fire first.
That leaves stall/Mono aether, or the only non-dumbass choice Novagraboids or some EQ deck.
The deck we played last round should do the trick.

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Re: Round 11 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27590.msg352063#msg352063
« Reply #43 on: June 16, 2011, 01:56:27 am »
At the moment I too am leaning towards a deck similar to last round.
Our mod options are basically fire mark like before, air mark with OE, or entropy mark with antimatter.
Not sure we can beat a well built nova-grab or PU-phoenix or other rush with it, but I don't like the rng risk or EQ possibility on our fractal decks.

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Re: Round 11 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27590.msg352068#msg352068
« Reply #44 on: June 16, 2011, 02:03:12 am »
EQ is not all that can screw fractal just remember that.

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Re: Round 11 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27590.msg352072#msg352072
« Reply #45 on: June 16, 2011, 02:12:07 am »
I don't know what point you're trying to make Long...?
Doesn't matter.

Question. Do we bother with PC?
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Re: Round 11 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27590.msg352124#msg352124
« Reply #46 on: June 16, 2011, 05:09:50 am »
I would personally stick with the fire mark and 3 deflags whether they go sundial posion or dim shield deflags will always help.
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Re: Round 11 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27590.msg352125#msg352125
« Reply #47 on: June 16, 2011, 05:33:17 am »
Ya I think fire is the better way to go too.
Was just seeing if sneaking an OE in there could still balance.

Feels kinda lame to be playing the same deck (pretty much) twice though.

 

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