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Aether https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27089.msg344186#msg344186
« on: June 01, 2011, 12:12:14 am »
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Yea I know there vault is kinda hard to predict but i feel we can still talk about what they might play against us. Unfortunatly, they now have BH's courtesy of Entropy. This makes building an effective rainbow against them hard. A duo with sancs might be a much better option
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Re: Aether https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27089.msg344188#msg344188
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2011, 12:15:52 am »
Or air/death. lol They believe we only have rainbows left. Hellooooooo duo.

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Re: Aether https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27089.msg344191#msg344191
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2011, 12:21:19 am »
Or air/death. lol They believe we only have rainbows left. Hellooooooo duo.
They know perfectly well that we have pendulums somewhere. air death will fail against any death/aether(they have been using dragons not mummies) duo deck. Also it will fail against TU Phoenix or if we get higs, fractix again.
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Re: Aether https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27089.msg344208#msg344208
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2011, 12:46:59 am »
With upped cards vs any normal member of Aether Air/death should be much faster. Also I noticed it takes a little while for them to get thier bonewall, wings takes half the time. I should be able to build more Poison that they ever will. ( Talking about vs the Aether/death deck. )
They more than likely believe that we will convert the pends.
We will most likely see a gravity/Aether duo. It cost 4 quanta to play BH, and they need to stop the poison at the start of the game. If they play BH at the start then they should not have enough quanta to play anything else on that turn. Then we end our turn again, thier pends switched so they have to play Aether cards, the bad part for them is that in the gravity/aether duo the gravity cards do the damage. Now if they go right for the titans/damage then we should be able to out damage them.

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Re: Aether https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27089.msg344214#msg344214
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2011, 01:01:25 am »
Im sure that if they go for us, they will go flying(they saw it coming, they fear it, so they are mildly paranoic about it).
Other option would be to take an edge from the immortal salvage and use a good poison bow with the sancs, bonewall/OE's/pande(put flying weapon to use to use both these and arsenic) combo and a miracle(mark of light). This way, if we are lucky they play creatures, we play poison, and we CC rofl stomp them. If they go for poison, we have poison too, and healing to back it up(also we could use some neurotoxin to get an extra edge).
I will bring a prototype soon.

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Re: Aether https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27089.msg345326#msg345326
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2011, 07:23:38 am »
They all have many cc heavy decks. and rainbows with pc. the air death just doesnt cut it here. in this round there really isnt a good match up for it. most decks left contain dragons and phoenixs. Air death is a no for fire and a maybe for aether or death. we can decide later. Btw they can still do fractix which they have used in the past and can do so again.

With the heavy cc and bonewall/dimshield we should have some what of protecting the creatures. momentum and buffs.
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Re: Aether https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27089.msg345380#msg345380
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2011, 12:38:14 pm »
This is what I wanted! YEA! This round the Aether general will taste DEFEAT!
What Aether will use should be easy to guess. They have BH's, by all rights we should not be able to build any good mono or duo. Aether gravity is what they will build. Rainbow is suicide. Air/death is what we should gamble on. It is our best bet.
Arsenic, and poison should be upgraded no?
3 arsenic ( upped )
3 poison ( upped )
2 azure dragons
2 owls eye ( can we? )
3 shockwaves
2 wings
1 bonewall
1 fogshield

Lets narrow this down!

Titan would be thier only momentumed creature UNLESS they put momentum in this deck, what would they momentum? Spiders (upgraded )? Shockwave and owls should take care of phase spiders. Poison can outdamage titan.


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Re: Aether https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27089.msg345463#msg345463
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2011, 04:00:16 pm »
So you're not going to sacrifice anything Long?
(Probably a good call to give our all vs. Aether...especially when she might be at fewer than 6 ups.)

I'm not sure if Higs will go aether-grav or just rush us.
Either of those scenarios would be ok for air death unless she uses fractix (she has that right?).
The deck you wrote (Could you maybe build a deck code next time? Much easier for the rest of us.) Looks all good and I'll put it in the decks thread soon. I definitely agree that air/death is our best chance here.


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Re: Aether https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27089.msg345563#msg345563
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2011, 09:03:48 pm »
I would have wrote the code but I had a job interveiw, I got the job! ( this is an uber good day. )
Higs has upped advantage, and will pick the best upped cards she can. I am now going to take some time to profile her war record and see if I can guess what she will use next.
Also I would give upped cards if I was against any other foe but I need everything I got to win against a master of 9 rounds that has not lost yet.

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Re: Aether https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27089.msg345573#msg345573
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2011, 09:32:45 pm »
I would have wrote the code but I had a job interveiw, I got the job! ( this is an uber good day. )
Higs has upped advantage, and will pick the best upped cards she can. I am now going to take some time to profile her war record and see if I can guess what she will use next.
Also I would give upped cards if I was against any other foe but I need everything I got to win against a master of 9 rounds that has not lost yet.
Congrats on the job!

I would be thrilled if we beat Higs. It would make my War. Air/Death could be a good option for sure, though I think we should consider other suggestions anyone has, time permitting.

They all have many cc heavy decks. and rainbows with pc. the air death just doesnt cut it here. in this round there really isnt a good match up for it. most decks left contain dragons and phoenixs. Air death is a no for fire and a maybe for aether or death. we can decide later. Btw they can still do fractix which they have used in the past and can do so again.

With the heavy cc and bonewall/dimshield we should have some what of protecting the creatures. momentum and buffs.
I don't think it's definite that they bring PC. I do think it's likely that they bring CC, which is why I think bringing poison is a good idea. Of course, they could mindgate us and bring purify, but I'm willing to take that risk. You're right that with lots of CC, web won't help much, so we'd be hoping that they don't bring too many fliers. Perhaps a dune scorp rainbow would be best, but on the other hand I can't see them failing to plan for it since we used it last round. I think BH is a strong possibility, so a duo is recommended, or possibly a rainbow with novas and sancs and a light mark.

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Re: Aether https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27089.msg345575#msg345575
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2011, 09:41:59 pm »
Ok his played PU graboids in round 1 against gravity.
round 2 devourer fractal against life
round 3 Fractix against gravity. ( Minor pheonix fractal.)
round 4 PU graboids against light.
round 5 fractix again against water.
round 6 BoneBolt with mummies against water.
round 7 fraxtix against death.
round 8 Bonebolt against entropy.

We just had bonebolt played against us. I believe higs will NOT play bonebolt against us. Fractal something, Grav/aether, PU graboids. We have played against PU graboids, that leaves fractal something, and grav/Aether.

Gravity/Aether duo or fractix? MP fractal has a good chance at winning, but they need upped cards so higs can not hand out upped cards and use the event card for his team. Gravity/Aether is a good bet though that is much better with upped cards as well.
I believe Air/death with the right upgrades will destroy gravity/aether deck. Phase shield and upgraded recluse meet poison and shockwave.
With the right upgrades I should also destroy bonebolt as my  shields will come out first and stop arsenic before they can stop my arsenic. Also flying weapons will be good as they have 7 health, teehee.

I am feeling good about air/death vs Aether.

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Re: Aether https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27089.msg345576#msg345576
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2011, 09:45:51 pm »
Ok his played PU graboids in round 1 against gravity.
round 2 devourer fractal against life
round 3 Fractix against gravity. ( Minor pheonix fractal.)
round 4 PU graboids against light.
round 5 fractix again against water.
round 6 BoneBolt with mummies against water.
round 7 fraxtix against death.
round 8 Bonebolt against entropy.

We just had bonebolt played against us. I believe higs will NOT play bonebolt against us. Fractal something, Grav/aether, PU graboids. We have played against PU graboids, that leaves fractal something, and grav/Aether.

Gravity/Aether duo or fractix? MP fractal has a good chance at winning, but they need upped cards so higs can not hand out upped cards and use the event card for his team. Gravity/Aether is a good bet though that is much better with upped cards as well.
I believe Air/death with the right upgrades will destroy gravity/aether deck. Phase shield and upgraded recluse meet poison and shockwave.
With the right upgrades I should also destroy bonebolt as my  shields will come out first and stop arsenic before they can stop my arsenic. Also flying weapons will be good as they have 7 health, teehee.

I am feeling good about air/death vs Aether.
Wow, she really likes that fractix. It's enough to make me a little uneasy about air/death (counters it perfectly).

 

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