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what do you think of the new Miami Heat? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14907.msg189310#msg189310
« on: October 31, 2010, 10:09:13 am »
there is a lot of buzzing aroung the world and also around the league of how capable the Miami Heat can win it all this 2010-2011 season..

I want to hear from you what can u say about LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, and the rest of the Miami Heat?

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Re: what do you think of the new Miami Heat? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14907.msg191667#msg191667
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2010, 10:32:59 pm »
Remember last time a team of "all the best" were thrown together and won in any sport?

Me neither.

The MJ Bulls were in the same basic situation, except they weren't simply thrown together, they developed a lot of chemistry though years of working together.

Players win games.

Teams win championships.

I have every belief in the world that the Heat can win several games, but what happens the second they hit a TEAM of nobodies in the playoffs? How much of the amazing 2007 series between the juggernaut Dallas and lowly Warriors did you watch?  #1 Dallas was expected to take it all, but #8 Golden State took them out.

Dallas that year was a team of big names (and big names that had time to work together, at that!) but Golden State, as a team (and the team worked hard to get everything right, even if Baron Davis was the man), managed to beat them.

Lots of games, maybe even a historic season, yes.

But don't expect them to win it all.

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Re: what do you think of the new Miami Heat? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14907.msg191917#msg191917
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2010, 03:08:41 am »
Although Heat has many talented players this time around, they also have many personalities to deal with. Egos that big usually don't work that well together.

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Re: what do you think of the new Miami Heat? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14907.msg200492#msg200492
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2010, 08:17:48 pm »
Although Heat has many talented players this time around, they also have many personalities to deal with. Egos that big usually don't work that well together.
Bosh and Wade have really yet to show that they have huge ego's. Also all the other "role" players know there role's. I also think James will keep everything low key.

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Re: what do you think of the new Miami Heat? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14907.msg207246#msg207246
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2010, 12:42:57 am »
I totally agree on roof.. The Heat still needs something to prove... After all, they have a dismal 8-5 8-6 record at the near end of the 1st month of action (Dismal for a roster of their caliber)..

I am also getting sick and tired of their never-ending excuse of "Still knowing each other" and the like.. When will they learn to adjust, when they are just battling for .500?

Their major problem is their lineup.. They don't have a true rebounder. Bosh plays soft basketball (although he still scores 17 a game) and only gets about 7 boards a game.. Now they are in very deep trouble as Udonis Haslem, their leading rebounder (8.2 OFF THE BENCH), got injured and won't play till late February..

Another problem is the point guard spot... They don't have a REAL point guard that plays like a point guard.. Carlos Arroyo doesn't fit. He even dismantle their offensive sets at times, and his mediocrity on long range shots make him a liability when needed to shoot from like 20-23 feet. Maybe Mario Chalmers, but he needs more minutes and he needs to play well on those minutes given to him.. Lastly, Eddie House is a scorer/shooter, not a playmaker...

I liked the article I have previously read about this proposed starting lineup:

PG- Lebron James
SG- Dwyane Wade
SF- James Jones
PF- Chris Bosh
C- Jamal Magloire/Zydrundas Ilgauskas

Lebron at the point may sound absurd, but it some games when he makes those set plays, they execute it very well. The fact that Lebron is a scoring threat, he can dish out more assists in the process. The center position can be switched, but i think Magloire can do better in terms of defensive and rebounding since the scoring part is already beefed up.

For now, House can enter the starting 5 since Wade is still out with that wrist injury..

Edit: The Heat just lost to the Indiana Pacers AT HOME 93-77

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Re: what do you think of the new Miami Heat? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14907.msg207255#msg207255
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2010, 12:51:26 am »
Remember last time a team of "all the best" were thrown together and won in any sport?

Me neither.

The MJ Bulls were in the same basic situation, except they weren't simply thrown together, they developed a lot of chemistry though years of working together.

Players win games.

Teams win championships.

I have every belief in the world that the Heat can win several games, but what happens the second they hit a TEAM of nobodies in the playoffs? How much of the amazing 2007 series between the juggernaut Dallas and lowly Warriors did you watch?  #1 Dallas was expected to take it all, but #8 Golden State took them out.

Dallas that year was a team of big names (and big names that had time to work together, at that!) but Golden State, as a team (and the team worked hard to get everything right, even if Baron Davis was the man), managed to beat them.

Lots of games, maybe even a historic season, yes.

But don't expect them to win it all.
The fact that former Warriors coach Don Nelson knows how his former assistant and then coach Avery Johnson run the Mavericks, it is easy for the Warriors to beat Dallas.. From the start of the series I know Golden State can win, since the up-tempo style of play by Nelson allow them to beat the set plays of Dallas.. The reason of Golden State playing small in that series was the key of beating the 1st-seeded Mavericks.

And lastly, I really don't expect Miami to win it all this season.. Maybe in the next 3-4 years, but not now..

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Re: what do you think of the new Miami Heat? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14907.msg207904#msg207904
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2010, 09:00:40 pm »
Remember last time a team of "all the best" were thrown together and won in any sport?

Me neither.

USA's Dream Team (s)
Canadien Hockey Team
USA's womens softball
2008 Boston Celtics
Manchester United teams
New York Yankees *pick any of their 28 championship teams*

They're out there and not too hard to find.

 

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