Is chess a sport or not?

[bucky1andonly]

It is not a world point of view that chess is a sport, it has been deemed a sport, just like baseball or curling.  It is a sport, and like any sport, you can do it casually with friends, or competitively in tournaments.

How the "world" defines chess, makes no difference to me.

If you disagree with how chess is defined, that is your choice, but that also makes you wrong.

Chess requires extreme physical demands: a single game might last six
hours or more, and several such games might be played in one weekend. A study at Temple University reported that tournament chess causes physical changes similar to a comparable session of boxing or football. For these reasons, chess competitors undergo extensive physical conditioning.
Also chess requires pure skill as there is no luck involved. It requires deep calculation which sets it apart from other board games.

Darts and Snooker are sports because although they are not physically demanding, they require lots of technique.

These cannot be sports by your definition. 

I define "sport" as something that requires physical effort and technique.

should actually read, if you really do consider darts and snooker to be sport like this

I define "sport" as something that requires physical effort and/or technique.

So if something fulfills only one of those aspects, by your definition, it should be a sport.  Darts requires technique, and every chess player has their own technique.  So by your own definition, you verified that chess is a sport.  Thank you, come again.

[Bonestorm]

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I define "sport" as something that requires physical effort and/or technique.

So if something fulfills only one of those aspects, by your definition, it should be a sport.  Darts requires technique, and every chess player has their own technique.  So by your own definition, you verified that chess is a sport.  Thank you, come again.

Speaking purely physically, It takes physical technique to throw a dart in a competitive fashion, it takes no real physical technique to move a chess piece. That's the point SG was making.

-Edit: Re-read it over and it looks as if you're just attacking his/her wording instead of the argument anyway.

I define "sport" as something that requires physical effort and/or physical technique.

[bucky1andonly]

Takes hand eye coordination to throw a dart, does that mean first person shooters are sports?
No!
Takes about as much physicality to throw darts during a match as it does to play a game of speed chess.

Sports do not need to be physically exerting, like golf, and yet that is a sport.

[Thalas]

Takes hand eye coordination to throw a dart, does that mean first person shooters are sports?
No!
Takes about as much physicality to throw darts during a match as it does to play a game of speed chess.

Sports do not need to be physically exerting, like golf, and yet that is a sport.

Sports (excluding chess) need strength or speed or agility/dexterity of body. or combined together.


bucky1andonly you're just twisting meanings of words.

chess causes physical changes similar to a comparable session of boxing or football.

And what are these changes?

[Bonestorm]

Takes about as much physicality to throw darts during a match as it does to play a game of speed chess.

I didn't question that at all, the competitive aspect of darts is purely in the physicality, you throw the dart and your performance throwing the dart is what is measured and scored.

The physical action of just moving a chess piece is not what you are judged on, your performance in the board game of chess is not on how accurately you can fit in the pieces in the squares, or how far you can throw a chess piece; it's not based on the physical merit of moving the piece.

[bucky1andonly]

Not endurance?  Could have sworn many sports require endurance.  Chess games can require endurance.

Sports (excluding chess) need strength, speed or agility of body.

So golf is not a sport.  If requires neither strength (swinging is more technique), nor speed, nor agility.


You cannot make up your own definition of what a sport is.  Chess is defined as a sport nowadays, again, and again, if you don't agree, that is fine, but that makes you wrong.  Sport has many definitions, and many activities are considered sport by the different definitions.  Throwing a frisbee is a recreational activity, yet they have made several sports involving frisbees.  So recreational activities too can be called sports.

It is fact chess is a sport, to argue is to be wrong. 

[Thalas]

Not endurance?  Could have sworn many sports require endurance.  Chess games can require endurance.

Monopoly needs endurance too, I've played 1 game monopoly for 5 hours

Sports (excluding chess) need strength, speed or agility of body.

So golf is not a sport.  If requires neither strength (swinging is more technique), nor speed, nor agility.


You cannot make up your own definition of what a sport is.  Chess is defined as a sport nowadays, again, and again, if you don't agree, that is fine, but that makes you wrong.  Sport has many definitions, and many activities are considered sport by the different definitions.  Throwing a frisbee is a recreational activity, yet they have made several sports involving frisbees.  So recreational activities too can be called sports.

It is fact chess is a sport, to argue is to be wrong.

sorry I forgot to add dexterity. And by dexterity I mean technique by some of sort.
and yes, I call recreational activities involving physical things sport.

So if something fulfills only one of those aspects, by your definition, it should be a sport.  Darts requires technique, and every chess player has their own technique.  So by your own definition, you verified that chess is a sport.  Thank you, come again.

What is the physical technique ?

[bucky1andonly]

Monopoly needs endurance too, I've played 1 game monopoly for 5 hours

A game that requires dice, therefore a game based on luck.  Chess is a thought based game, as is snooker.  The physical aspect of a sport can be anything, does not mean it has to be forceful in anyway.

[Thalas]

Monopoly needs endurance too, I've played 1 game monopoly for 5 hours

A game that requires dice, therefore a game based on luck.  Chess is a thought based game, as is snooker.  The physical aspect of a sport can be anything, does not mean it has to be forceful in anyway.

Than what about  : Mahjong
                               Draughts 
                                Halma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halma)
                               Urban Rivals (http://www.urban-rivals.com/)

And reply to every game.

EDIT: And how do you choose who is black and white. Isn't that somekind of luck

[bucky1andonly]

mahjong - is not nearly as big as chess is, no board style game is, and mahjong requires luck, in case you didn't know

draughts - aka checkers, does not require the mental discipline that chess does

halma - no one plays this?

urban rivals - now youre just being dumb, a stupid manga based ccg? 

-edit-
you can choose how ever you like, how does the superbowl teams decide who gets the ball first??? FLIP A COIN

[Thalas]

mahjong - is not nearly as big as chess is, no board style game is, and mahjong requires luck, in case you didn't know

draughts - aka checkers, does not require the mental discipline that chess does

halma - no one plays this?

urban rivals - now youre just being dumb, a stupid manga based ccg? 

mahjong -  sorry

draughts - Just because no one plays it doesn't mean it doesn't require mental discipline. Chess for fun doesn't require mental discipline too as Checkers don't need mental discipline if played for fun.
And Checkers tournaments, if chess is recognised as sport then so should be checkers (http://www.usacheckers.com/tournamentannouncements.php)

halma - just because no ones plays doesn't mean it shouldn't be recognized as sport. In my country it's still popular.

urban rivals - Themes don't matter, only rules

-edit-
you can choose how ever you like, how does the superbowl teams decide who gets the ball first??? FLIP A COIN

LUCK

[bucky1andonly]

mahjong - pieces underneath of others means you dont know what they are and your picks reveal random pieces, so it is luck, the skill portion is finding the matches

draughts - you cant say if one board game is a sport then every other one is too, checkers does not require the same level of mental discipline, so it really is not physically exerting, and matches don't take hours like chess.  That is because checkers is a very simple game, with the only moves being diagonally.  checkers is akin to tic tac toe

halma - if it is popular in your country, good for you, if the world does not recognize the name of the game, chances are it will never be a sport

urban rivals - i was not referring to theme, if any ccg were to be a sport it would be mtg, but since card games rely mostly on luck, they are ruled out