Ambush! Series

[OldTrees]

Really good job Oldtrees. Nice mechanic.
There are more tactics that could be used in this cards or in other series (applied to a creature with ambush).
2- Poisoned attack (spell): target creature with ambush passive skill gains "add 1 poison damage after each succesful attack"
2- Ride by attack (permanent): your weapon gains ambush and a second attack
2- Charge (spell): target creature with ambush loses ambush but gains +5/+0 and a poison counter.
1- Smart retreat (spell): your creatures don't attack this turn but gain ambush
1- Sargeant (creature): spawn a 2/2 soldier with ambush.

Wow. Great additions.
Now I will need to divide the ideas into
Type 1: Introducing the mechanic
Type 2: Expanding on the mechanic

[EmeraldTiger]

I want to let Ajit, ArtCrusade and Nepycros contribute before we go much further with this.

[OldTrees]

Sounds like a good plan. I will leave the separate thread count at 2 to test the waters.

[Werdbooty]

A few more ideas...


An Ambush counter, seeing as Entropy wouldn't really use an ambush tactic anyway:

NAME: Disgregation ELEMENT: Entropy COST: 2 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: N/A TEXT: Deal X damage to all creatures with Ambush, where X is equal to the number of Ambushers in play.	NAME: Disgregation ELEMENT: Entropy COST: TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: N/A TEXT: Deal X damage to all creatures with Ambush, where X is equal to the number of Ambushers in play.

ART: N/A IDEA: Werdbooty NOTES: Perhaps this doesn't quite fit in the series, seeing as it's a counter, but if anything, Entropy would go against anything so formulated as an Ambush. SERIES: Ambush!

Another counter, this one making use of the Fire mark:

NAME: Signal Flare ELEMENT: Fire COST: 3 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: N/A TEXT: You may not be Ambushed. Creatures with Ambush retain that ability but don't deal any extra damage.	NAME: Signal Pyre ELEMENT: Fire COST: 2 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: N/A TEXT: You may not be Ambushed. Creatures with Ambush retain that ability but don't deal any extra damage.

ART: N/A IDEA: Werdbooty NOTES: I tried to keep the cost low as this isn't really a very effective card if your opponent isn't playing an Ambush! deck. However, the concept of a Signal Flare foiling an Ambush attempt was just too good to pass up. SERIES: Ambush!

And a new weapon to take advantage of the ability:

NAME: Throwing Star ELEMENT: Other COST: 1 TYPE: Permanent - Weapon ATK|HP: 2|4 when Flying TEXT: Weapon: deals 2 + X damage, where X is equal to the number of Ambushers in play.	NAME: Shuriken ELEMENT: Other COST: 2 TYPE: Permanent - Weapon ATK|HP: 4|4 when Flying TEXT: Weapon: deals 4 + X damage, where X is equal to the number of Ambushers in play.

ART: N/A IDEA: Werdbooty NOTES: You can't have ninjas without ninja stars. SERIES: Ambush!

Naturally all cards are open for tweaks & changes.


*modified message to add artwork & tidy up wording on cards.

[Nepycros]

Bullet Ant | Giant Ant (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,15405) Is this what you guys were going for? I get how the mechanics are different, but I think the mechanic could be useful in some areas for Gravity. I think for the time being, I'll try fitting the ant into all this.

[OldTrees]

Wow Drobbit, joebob777 and Werdbooty. You have convinced me that I will need to expand this past just a series to satisfy you.

hint of My current plan (pending responses from a PM)

Thread Name: Tactics Set
Series 1: Introducing Ambush
[This would be all the cards that would work and be balanced by themselves. The goal of these cards is for Zanz to think they are neat/hear a great roar of approval such that 1 gets added.]
Series 2: Expanding and Countering Ambush
[This would be all the cards that require other cards with ambush to already exist to make sense/be balanced. The goal of these cards to allow Zanz a place to look for inspiration on expanding the usage of Ambush in the game once/if added.]
Series 3: Introducing [waiting for PM]
Series 4: Expanding and Countering [waiting for PM]

[joebob777]

you're expanding a series just because i came up with one card? thank you. oh and some other people came up with more cards than me but thats not important,
on the other hand, my death card might possibly maybe be a spell
Sacrifice a creature to give another ambush
i think that would be more efficiant

[OldTrees]

you're expanding a series just because i came up with one card? thank you. oh and some other people came up with more cards than me but thats not important,
on the other hand, my death card might possibly maybe be a spell
Sacrifice a creature to give another ambush
i think that would be more efficiant

We have to be very careful with which elements can hand out ambush.
Death and Time should not be able to do so in mono. (That would be too cheap a scorpion buff or too expensive an ambush card)
However what about sacrifice representing a posses mechanic?
Name:Ancient Spirit|Ghost General
Element:Death
Cost:TBD
Stats:TBD
Effect: 1 : Sacrifice Ancient Spirit|Ghost General, target creature gains Ambush and Possessed. When target creature dies or is rewound create an Ancient Spirit|Ghost General. Possessed is inherited by mutations and evolutions.

[EmeraldTiger]

I am happy with the inspiration that this concept has given to so many people.

[Drobbit]

@Oldtrees: or even you could have a darkness card named Traitor (or an ability with this name) that could target one ambush creature to deal damage to its owner. That would fit in the tactical/ambush concept.

[Werdbooty]

I just noticed the words "Spear Formation."

*cracks knuckles* ...okay, let's see here...

[OldTrees]

Spear Formation is a new mechanics that represents the coordinated push through the opponent's defenses.

Mechanic
Type: Active/Activated
Card Text: Creatures in Spear Formation attack as one.
Effect: When activated the creature that previously activated Spear Formation this turn will not attack. This creatures current attack increases by the current attack of the creature that previously used Spear Formation this turn.

@Nepycros
Bullet Ant should gain the ability
0: Spear Formation: Creatures in Spear Formation attack as one.
or
 : Spear Formation and gain Momentum for the turn. Creatures in Spear Formation attack as one.

@Oldtrees: or even you could have a darkness card named Traitor (or an ability with this name) that could target one ambush creature to deal damage to its owner. That would fit in the tactical/ambush concept.

We do not want to have cards be too specific such that their used is unnecessarily constrained. A Traitor [cause target creature to attack its owner] card would fit well in the 2nd Ambush series as part of this Tactics Set.

I will continue to format these ideas into the 4 series. It may appear slow but please keep up the suggestions. Also please comment on the two Ambush threads already created [Land Wyrm and Swamp Gator].

However I will not add a third series mechanic until we are much further on these two.