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Re: Advanced Spells - Spells that consume all quanta of an element after use https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5696.msg105511#msg105511
« Reply #48 on: July 01, 2010, 02:19:52 pm »
So hyperdrive and then play something like fractal kills you? Since hyperdrive would make you lose all your life when fractal trys to take it all? XD

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Re: Advanced Spells - Spells that consume all quanta of an element after use https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5696.msg105752#msg105752
« Reply #49 on: July 01, 2010, 07:25:42 pm »
So hyperdrive and then play something like fractal kills you? Since hyperdrive would make you lose all your life when fractal trys to take it all? XD
That is exactly the intention. Playing an Advanced Spell after using Hyperdrive will result in a warning message popping up, saying that you'll die if you use that spell.
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Re: Advanced Spells - Spells that consume all quanta of an element after use https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5696.msg105819#msg105819
« Reply #50 on: July 01, 2010, 09:24:21 pm »
So hyperdrive and then play something like fractal kills you? Since hyperdrive would make you lose all your life when fractal trys to take it all? XD
That is exactly the intention. Playing an Advanced Spell after using Hyperdrive will result in a warning message popping up, saying that you'll die if you use that spell.
But hyperdrive is useless anyways, because you wont have any quanta left.

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Re: Advanced Spells - Spells that consume all quanta of an element after use https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5696.msg112290#msg112290
« Reply #51 on: July 11, 2010, 01:01:01 pm »
So hyperdrive and then play something like fractal kills you? Since hyperdrive would make you lose all your life when fractal trys to take it all? XD
Technically I would say the "consumes all quanta" on those spells is part of the EFFECT of that spell rather than the COST and therefore it should not automatically kill you like that(though to keep this card at all balanced in combination with fractal or miracle, something like this would have to be done anyway).

Even with this restriction though, I would argue that allowing any quanta to be used to pay the cost of this card makes it very OP.  Consider an opening hand of 4 quantum towers, hyperdrive, 2 elite phase dragons.  On turn 1, before your opponent has any chance to react, you now have dealt 20 damage to him and have 2 untargetable 10/6 creatures in play.  It cost 28 of your own life to do this but since he can't do anything about your dragons, they will easily make up for that on the next turn and even without playing anything else after that, you have a 5 turn kill.  Ruby dragons would be even more damage at a lower life cost but at least could be killed the next turn.


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Re: Advanced Spells - Spells that consume all quanta of an element [COMPLETE] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5696.msg126384#msg126384
« Reply #54 on: July 28, 2010, 12:48:44 pm »
Good idea.  Needs work.

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Re: Advanced Spells - Spells that consume all quanta of an element [COMPLETE] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5696.msg169109#msg169109
« Reply #55 on: October 02, 2010, 02:51:28 pm »
Absolutely awesome.  :o

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Re: Advanced Spells - Spells that consume all quanta of an element [COMPLETE] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5696.msg178889#msg178889
« Reply #56 on: October 18, 2010, 04:34:51 am »
I think singularity needs to be improved.

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Re: Advanced Spells - Spells that consume all quanta of an element [COMPLETE] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5696.msg184225#msg184225
« Reply #57 on: October 25, 2010, 05:03:38 am »
Nice card art.
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Re: Advanced Spells - Spells that consume all quanta of an element [COMPLETE] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5696.msg277707#msg277707
« Reply #58 on: February 24, 2011, 04:05:45 pm »
There is already an air card that consumes all your air quanta. Its called 'sky blitz'. :)

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Re: Advanced Spells - Spells that consume all quanta of an element [COMPLETE] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5696.msg277711#msg277711
« Reply #59 on: February 24, 2011, 04:09:52 pm »
There is already an air card that consumes all your air quanta. Its called 'sky blitz'. :)
Which was added LONG after this topic died out ;)

 

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