Oracle : Seism

[Sevs]

would a last turn silence help vs granite skin?

[Jappert]

would a last turn silence help vs granite skin?

Yes, it would.
In general I wanted to say I never ever had problems with Seism when using CCYB. When it's predicted I just put in an extra PA (I use 1 PA standard, so that would be 2 when vs Seism).
He has some really nice AM targets and shriekers aren't much of a problem when burrowed. Also he usually has prety slow starts and if you manage to PA your towers (ofc play them one by one before you do) you're good. Stoneskin is an annoyance, I agree, but nothing more then that. I wouldn't personally pack a silence just for that reason but silence would be the best counter for that.

[Stickmasterluke]

I used the deck shown on the original post and lost. :< I started using Dim Shields as 17 cards left. Then ran out of shields when 11 cards left in deck. And I only got him down to 140 hp. 

[icecoldbro]

The deck lacks damage. I decked vs him.
The buff on Stone Skin, makes him pretty hard for a deck that loses a lot of damage thanks to his Diamond Shields.
I recommend a different deck.

[Sevs]

The buff on Stone Skin, makes him pretty hard for a deck that loses a lot of damage thanks to his Diamond Shields.

Use 1 silence

[TheForbiddenOracle]

I used the original deck withy just one upped dragon. almost decked, but i won.
(http://imageplay.net/view/m7Gbd124089/Schermafbeelding_2011_01_18_om)
also, can anyone tell me how to make these pictures bigger?

Wait... How did you win? 1 Elite Dragon for 7 damage, 4 dragons for 5 damage each, 4 x 5= 20, Lightening is 5 damage, 27+5=32. 32<33, so close... did he have any stone skins next turn or were all those cards in his hand just EQ?

[Stickmasterluke]

I won with a variant of the first deck.

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[Isei]

I managed to win with the list in the OP, only unupped, no silences added.   He only drew 1 Stone Skin, which might be one of the contributing factors.  Basically, just wait as absolutely long as possible to start chaining shields (I did so when at 8 life) and you should be able to get the quanta you need to get dragons out on time and kill him before you deck out.

[johannhowitzer]

Tried a new deck concept for Seism.  This went through a TON of changes... I started out using Dragonflies, Wings, and Empathic Bond.  (I even threw in a couple Shockwaves to counter Silurian Dragons, though it seemed like overkill.)  That was very stable on the survival end, but because of his Diamond Shield, not so hot on the win condition end.  Air and Life really don't have a recourse against both that shield and Rewind, so I had to scrap.  Wings stayed in, though!  It's 66% longer-lasting, at only 66% of the cost - plus it's fat free!

The trick is that he has two varieties of Dragon - 4 Basalt and 2 Silurian.  What do you get when fighting airborne creatures AND a Diamond Shield with Wings?  You get... Death!

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This deck seems quite reliable, but I've only played him with it once.  Got really burned out on all the tweaks I was doing, so maybe I'll come back and test more later.



The strategy is kind of complex, so if you're something of a newbie, you might want to stick with the OP deck unupped.  But this seems to work well unupped, and it's rareless!

Assuming you Web every dragon the turn it gets on the field, he will get a grand total of 66 damage from them.  That means you can allow 34 damage before your first Wings, more if a couple of his dragons are deep in his deck.  Due to the fact that you can only get 30 turns of flight from said Wings, try to strike a balance on when you play them... they too can be buried, and late-game, one turn of exposure spells doom.  Hedge your bets!

Unless you're swimming in quanta, try to keep only one Spider on the field at once.  If you're starting to lose health or got a late first Wings, maybe go with two on the off-chance that he Rewinds one the same turn he plays a dragon.  This deck runs slim on quanta for a reason - Wings is your most pricey card, and it's run on the Mark.  He is reluctant to Rewind such "weak" creatures as spiders and jellyfish, but he will do it eventually, in all likelihood.

(A note about Web for first-time users: you cannot open creature tooltips when you have a creature ability selected.  If you're not sure which Dragon was just played and which are already grounded, mouseover before clicking your Spider.  I made this mistake once, costing me 10 health, so my HP should actually have been 35 at the kill.)

Pillar strategy: poke your Water pillars and pendulums out first, one at a time.  If you have no pendulums in Water, you can poke out a Death pendulum early to bid for an extra , but if at all possible, burn his first couple Quicksands on Water stuff.  You only need 1 for each Chrysaora, and there is an extra pillar in there in case of Rewind; Death, on the other hand, is your win condition and needs to be fairly renewable.  Use your judgment, and when it seems likely to be safe, play only one each of a Death pillar and Death pendulum, then use those only until A) your hand gets clogged, which shouldn't happen, or B) he blows one up.  NEVER add a second card to a pillar stack - unless it's Death and you're being very, very slow on the poison.  You have exactly as many pillar cards as he has Quicksands.

Seism only packs two Granite Skins, for a maximum of 150 healing.  Assuming a decent draw, this kind of poison assault is more than enough to finish him - as you can see, I only managed 23 poison on him, and had 7 cards left when I got the kill, despite one cast of Granite Skin.  (His Rewind helped a bit, I think he shot me with it about four times.)

Enjoy!  If anyone wants to be a dear and post some stats on this deck in the trainer, knock yourself out - maybe I'll get to it, maybe I won't.  Time for a shower!

[burne]

Here's the deck I use to figth seism. It does it pretty well and if you pass the set up, it's an easy EM.

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The most important thing to know for winning with this deck, is the seism's rewind strategy.
He will of course rewind photon with mitosis ability, so try not to play mitosis to early. Instead try to put your hope shield first (not even using photosynthesis ability).
Then, once the shield is up, seism's rewind priority change in favor of light emiting creature. He will even favor targeting a RoL over a dragon !!!

Then you should be able to beat him easily, just don't play more than 1 leaf dragon, no more than 13 Rol to left room for your dragon.

Hope shield is unupgraded because it's better to play it early than saving one room for a dragon.
I've never decked out once so don't be afraid to use sundial drawing ability.

Of course, if you don't have early RoL or if your lazy dragon are hiding at the bottom of your deck, you're pretty much screwed.


Hope you like it.


Edit after some tests:
I played 20 games in a row for 15 victories, all of them being EM.
The more RoL you got early, the more chances you got to win. Contrarily to what I said a few lines upstairs, don't hesitate to sacrifice a mitosis at the very begining. You will still produce a RoL, seism will rewind the mitosis one that you will play next turn, acting as a twinunniverse with a delay. Light quana are priceless as they fuel everything.

Set up is very tricky and if you want to use the deck, better to exerce yourself in trainer first.

In one game, I manage not to draw any dragon untill 5 cards left. Seism was at 170hp, and I won !!!
Futhermore seism didn't use any rewind on those few turn.

[Picheleiro]

Here's the deck I use to figth seism. It does it pretty well and if you pass the set up, it's an easy EM.

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Hope you like it.

Love it.

I tried a little variation of this deck with less upgrade cards. Works well, too.

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