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Re: Oracle : Seism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9506.msg1093790#msg1093790
« Reply #120 on: August 22, 2013, 02:42:00 am »
What about some sort of  :earth :death duo? Poison Dials SoSac always does great against Seism if you can keep pillars in play. Going off that strategy, I give you...
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My strategy was: Hold pillars till a wild PA appears, play pillars and use it, live happily ever after. Seriously, it worked pretty well. Next time, however, I might do something like Mark of  :death and  :earth Pendulums and  :death Towers, just so I can get a turn 1 PA. Try it out and let me know what you guys think.


I like the idea, but I haven't been able to make it work out.  Damage came too fast to use a sosac the first time (he pulled out two dragons in one turn!  I guess I could have played the sosac the previous turn, so chock one loss to user error), 2nd loss was b/c I didn't draw a SoSac in time and ran out of sundials (and no extra draw b/c of no light quanta).  It may be more reliable with the mods as you suggest, but I haven't had any luck so far..... 
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Re: Oracle : Seism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9506.msg1094017#msg1094017
« Reply #121 on: August 23, 2013, 04:07:27 am »
Okay. With the mods I suggested in my previous post, it came to this:

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However, I'm still convinced it can be improved. Rays of Light? Maybe, but Rewinds...

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Re: Oracle : Seism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9506.msg1098940#msg1098940
« Reply #122 on: September 24, 2013, 07:29:49 pm »
Okay. With the mods I suggested in my previous post, it came to this:

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However, I'm still convinced it can be improved. Rays of Light? Maybe, but Rewinds...

I gave it another try, but it didn't work out.  The earth pends didn't come until too late, and with no healing or draw with the sundials, you don't have much control over the pace of the match.  I think you should keep working on it, but I'm going to go back to Pdials.
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Re: Oracle : Seism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9506.msg1099581#msg1099581
« Reply #123 on: September 28, 2013, 03:59:16 pm »
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Tried that this time. Only lost when he Reverse Time'd my Black Nymph pet. If I had to do it again, I'd say -2 Shards of Divinity, +1 Protect Artifact. I had the match completely under control till that pet rewinding business... -_- Any input as to the deck above is extremely appreciated.

Ahhahaha... got it now. Dunno why it took me this long.

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Novas instead of Earth Pendulums. Also, they give you as much  :light and  :earth as you need. Someone try that out and let me know what you think. Remember not to use Novas unless you're going to play a PA the same turn, otherwise a SoSac might drain your  :earth.

Edit: 1/1 with this deck. The first time I used it I lost due to late PA. Second time I EM'd easily even though my first Pillar was on turn 7.
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Re: Oracle : Seism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9506.msg1109085#msg1109085
« Reply #124 on: November 12, 2013, 04:23:59 am »
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Tried that this time. Only lost when he Reverse Time'd my Black Nymph pet. If I had to do it again, I'd say -2 Shards of Divinity, +1 Protect Artifact. I had the match completely under control till that pet rewinding business... -_- Any input as to the deck above is extremely appreciated.

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Novas instead of Earth Pendulums. Also, they give you as much  :light and  :earth as you need. Someone try that out and let me know what you think. Remember not to use Novas unless you're going to play a PA the same turn, otherwise a SoSac might drain your  :earth.

Edit: 1/1 with this deck. The first time I used it I lost due to late PA. Second time I EM'd easily even though my first Pillar was on turn 7.

Nice Deck Johnny!  This worked really well - Novas were a smart addition (and the draw from sundials definitely helps)  + rep.
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Re: Oracle : Seism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9506.msg1112026#msg1112026
« Reply #125 on: November 26, 2013, 05:24:27 pm »
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-2 bolts +2 silences? Possibly -3/+3? Stone Skin is annoying.
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Re: Oracle : Seism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9506.msg1114820#msg1114820
« Reply #126 on: December 12, 2013, 06:27:44 pm »
Another win for Nova-Poison Dials.

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Re: Oracle : Seism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9506.msg1125020#msg1125020
« Reply #127 on: February 06, 2014, 10:59:39 pm »
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Brilliant deck jsrjohnny. Worked like a charm, even when I didn't get the novas until turn 9. Sundials paired with SoSac is smart (after every SoSac play a sundial to get the max number of creatures on the field, since AI will only play creatures when SoSac isn't active).

I might have got lucky, Seism didn't play any Stone Skin...but I still had about 15 cards in deck when I won...early Arsenic was very helpful.
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Re: Oracle : Seism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9506.msg1140950#msg1140950
« Reply #128 on: June 18, 2014, 11:22:26 pm »
in the OP there's a mito-RoLs.
Seism rewinds your mito'd rols.
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Re: Oracle : Seism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9506.msg1141041#msg1141041
« Reply #129 on: June 19, 2014, 10:01:36 am »
seism prefers to rewind :light-producing creatures once you have a hope up;

the deck works, but you cannot get away with only ~4 mitosis stuck in;
you'll need to use 3 or 4 on RoL's to get a hope out.
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Re: Oracle : Seism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9506.msg1141118#msg1141118
« Reply #130 on: June 19, 2014, 07:22:15 pm »
seism prefers to rewind :light-producing creatures once you have a hope up;

the deck works, but you cannot get away with only ~4 mitosis stuck in;
you'll need to use 3 or 4 on RoL's to get a hope out.

Thing is i tried it, and even without hope seism rewinds rol as soon as i play mitosis on it
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Re: Oracle : Seism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9506.msg1141120#msg1141120
« Reply #131 on: June 19, 2014, 07:28:59 pm »
Thing is i tried it, and even without hope seism rewinds rol as soon as i play mitosis on it
that's exactly opposite of what i said;
once you have hope out, ai prefers to rewind the non-mitosising RoL's, leaving your extra RoL-generation untouched.
Not that it changes much to play style; just get your hope out as fast as possible.
be quick- time is quanta.

 

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