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On farming Seism(Requesting Help from Scaredgirl) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=416.msg3977#msg3977
« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:51 pm »

Well as far as i know none of all that variety of rainbow decks were specifically catered towards beating seism ;p  With drawing power a rainbow deck has the ability to get all the cards in the deck out and can certainly get a protect artifact, it can easily get the killing power vs. seism, all you need is a boneyard, and otyugh, and a fallen druid and you are basically set when you have quantum.
I'm not just talking theoretically here. I HAVE tried to build a rainbow deck specifically catered towards beating Seism. I tried to build a deck like that right after I did the ULTIMATE one. My plan was to design a rainbow deck that would Seism every time, and the modify it so that it could beat other Gods as well. This in my mind would have been the perfect Anti-God deck.

Unfortunately what I found was that most of these cards that are best against Seism, are already in the basic rainbow! There are no better anti-Seism cards for rainbow really. One exception is Protect Artifact if you didn't have it already. And if you did, you should take more of them.

Anubis was pretty good but way too much about luck. You really need to draw this guy early. And because you need him early, you need at least 2-3 in your deck who take up space. Also he's very expensive to use if you have Eternity also.

I did try to build a Anti-Seism rainbow again after reading this post but the results were the same as the last time. Sure you can win most of the matches but you WILL lose and anyone who says they don't, are lying. And when you DO win, it's very slow.

Aether/Earth deck I posted earlier wins almost every time. After about 12 matches, I still haven't lost. Although, like I said before, one time I almost lost, because this is a card game no deck wins 100%.

The question is how to defend... creatures such as an artic squid may play a role. 
Haven't tried it with Squid because I don't have it but I played around a lot with Congeal. Freeze can be great but the problem is that there are just so many enemy characters. I think Squids ability uses 3 quantum (?) so you might not be able to use it as often as you would hope. For crowd control, Otyugh is just many times more effective imo.

The possible deaths I see are:

Not drawing enough towers
All the protect artifacts far down
Almost all of the dragons, or most of the phase shields, are near the bottom
This is a card game. Every deck will lose if the cards are in bad order. But with 30 card deck and multiple copies of each cards, I would say that the luck element is pretty small. As long as I keep winning I have no problems with luck. :)


In conclusion I'll say that OP wanted a fast, reliable Seism-farming deck and that's what I gave him. I don't think it is possible to build a better deck to counter Seism. But if anyone wants to prove me wrong, I'd be interested to see it.

Scaredgirl

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On farming Seism(Requesting Help from Scaredgirl) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=416.msg3978#msg3978
« Reply #37 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:51 pm »

Scaredgirl, couldn't you cycle a Lightning Bolt out for an Electrocuter? That extra five damage a turn for a mere three quanta would be pretty useful. The lobo ability probably wouldn't be as much use, but I think that the over time damage would be better. Just a thought. Of course, you'd have to draw it earlier, though. =/

Yes, you are absolutely right.

What happened was that I had Electrocuter in this deck at first but then I decided I wanted more Towers so I threw it away. After some testing I saw that I didn't need that many Towers so I took Thunderbolts instead, totally forgetting about Electrocuter.

Yeah, you should definitely take it. 5 damage each round adds up nicely although if he plays his shield, it's only 2 damage. But even that is better than a single Thunderbolt would do. If you have extra quantum, you can also take that earth producing ability away from those "Dog Riders" whatever their name is :)

Electrocuter won't help you win the match but it will help you win it FASTER which is always nice with farming decks like this one.

Thanks for feedback. I need to change that picture.

On farming Seism(Requesting Help from Scaredgirl) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=416.msg3979#msg3979
« Reply #38 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:51 pm »

Scaredgirl, couldn't you cycle a Lightning Bolt out for an Electrocuter? That extra five damage a turn for a mere three quanta would be pretty useful. The lobo ability probably wouldn't be as much use, but I think that the over time damage would be better. Just a thought. Of course, you'd have to draw it earlier, though. =/

On farming Seism(Requesting Help from Scaredgirl) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=416.msg3980#msg3980
« Reply #39 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:51 pm »

Scaredgirl --
Since you admit that the lobotomizing ability is probably going to be of no/minimal use, why not use an upgraded Gavel instead of the Lobotomizer?  The Gavel will do 6 dmg per turn intstead of lobotomizers 5 (because you have Earth Mark).  It is also of course cheaper as well (2 random quanta) so you may be able to get it out a turn earlier in some cases.  Don't forget about those boring plain weapons!
Foyle has a point, here. Though, if you have an unupgraded Lobotomizer, then it would probably be better than upgrading the Hammer, since it would save you the money of upgrading. Though you're right, the Gavel is a much better option.

thearchduke

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On farming Seism(Requesting Help from Scaredgirl) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=416.msg4687#msg4687
« Reply #40 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:53 pm »

Oh my, you are a thinker, aren't you?

Evil Hamster

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On farming Seism(Requesting Help from Scaredgirl) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=416.msg4917#msg4917
« Reply #41 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:54 pm »

Who was that directed at?

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On farming Seism(Requesting Help from Scaredgirl) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=416.msg5172#msg5172
« Reply #42 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:55 pm »

LOL just cause I'm an admin now doesn't mean I have a thin skin  ;D

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On farming Seism(Requesting Help from Scaredgirl) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=416.msg5173#msg5173
« Reply #43 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:55 pm »

BAN THAT NOOB!!!!!!!!!!!  >:(

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On farming Seism(Requesting Help from Scaredgirl) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=416.msg5174#msg5174
« Reply #44 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:55 pm »

Your smiley looks so angry...

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On farming Seism(Requesting Help from Scaredgirl) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=416.msg5175#msg5175
« Reply #45 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:55 pm »

Or ONLY use it to copy a big creature if you will win that turn- much the same as you would against Miracle/
Oh my, you are a thinker, aren't you?
Quoting helps.  My bad.  <Hits self repeatedly with hammer>

EDIT:  It also now occurs to me that my response statement could originally have been read as a sarcastic insult.  I actually hadn't considered the idea of waiting to double a dragon until its HP would kill miracle on that turn.  I meant to say "That's a good idea, thanks."  I hope I'm less of an idiot in the future.

 

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