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Re: Oracle : Scorpio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611.msg1010718#msg1010718
« Reply #96 on: October 26, 2012, 03:53:40 am »
Uses a half-upped version of Tiko's deck with one SoW replaced with an Aether Pillar. No EM, but the win was never really in doubt. SoW is a really nice addition :3
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Re: Oracle : Scorpio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611.msg1037545#msg1037545
« Reply #97 on: February 01, 2013, 01:36:39 pm »
I would like to point out the fact that the second deck in the OP is outdated =p

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Re: Oracle : Scorpio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611.msg1038960#msg1038960
« Reply #98 on: February 05, 2013, 09:17:29 pm »
I just beat Scorpio with a modification of the unupped deck:

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I didn't ever draw a Lobo, but the purifies kept me alive and the immortal creatures did enough damage.  SoW is pretty important as the spell damage was key at the end when he put up a frost shield, maybe Psions could also work (if they didn't get congealed....).

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Re: Oracle : Scorpio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611.msg1048105#msg1048105
« Reply #99 on: March 04, 2013, 10:00:50 pm »
I just won today using this deck - all unupped (but 4 rares).  Only ended up using one lobo and one shard, but having 2 of each likely made sure they came up.
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Update: I'm 1 for 2 with this deck.  An early lobo is crucial so you can stop the physalia from poisoning you.  Maybe add one more lobo.

Update 2: meh... I'm 1 for 3 now.  Got the early lobo, but then only drew one shield....  alas, I seem to have better luck with PDials.
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Re: Oracle : Scorpio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611.msg1053543#msg1053543
« Reply #100 on: March 23, 2013, 06:43:57 pm »
i have tried this deck many times but as of yet i have had no luck, have tried editing deck but still can not get to work

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Re: Oracle : Scorpio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611.msg1064055#msg1064055
« Reply #101 on: April 26, 2013, 08:37:51 am »
Won with this deck ON MY VERY LAST CARD:
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Problem was, I was down to my very last card. I HIGHLY recommend adding in some immortals, SoW if you have it, and maybe a lightning or two, just to give you the edge against him.

Admittedly, I got quite lucky with a very early Lobo - that won me the game to the point I only needed 2 purifies to stop all damage.

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Re: Oracle : Scorpio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611.msg1074078#msg1074078
« Reply #102 on: May 24, 2013, 11:55:08 pm »
I've had trouble designing a deck that was reliable against scorpio.  The monoaether/SoW with purifies has the problem that it can deck out fairly easily if you don't draw your damage early enough.  I've tried a bunch of other things as well, but scorpio has proven fairly difficult to find a good counter for.  The purifies means a common deck like pdials is garbage.  Scorpio's own poison means you'll need either purifies or healing if you want to stall.  The octopus, ulitharid, and permafrost can mess with some creature based strategies like the infamous Swallow deck (based on otyugh/SOP), plus the fact that eating pufferfish is not good for otyughs, although that deck might have a decent win rate; I haven't tested it.

In any event, I built a deck for today's scorpio prediction that, while I've only played one game with it, I think has potential.  (I'll let others look at it and decide if they can improve it or want to use it)  I'll be using it next time I get scorpio, in any event.

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6 purifies helps make sure the poison's effectiveness is low.  The octopi and lances and auburns help control enemy creatures, and the diamond shield blocks the pufferfish, which is fairly important; the lances can also be used to freeze scorpio's weapons.  (wardens or basilisk bloods or congeals can be used instead of auburns, and nymph's tears instead of queens, or even tears + a few earth towers to get auburns)  Granite skins help get you more electrum as well as increase survivability.  Shard of Patience keeps the army growing, so that you can either OTK past a permafrost, or if your creatures get frozen, you can sit there and build them up until scorpio runs out of CC.  The poseidon keeps scorpio's quanta down; with his death mark, if you can keep his water quanta under control, there's not a lot he can do.  I had a turn 2 poseidon and it just wrecked him.  The one warning I will give is that if your creatures are really big, he could possibly kill you with a few sudden twin universes; in my game, he played one on a 49/50 octopus, but by then I had over 200hp so I didn't care.  I also sat on my SoP until I'd drawn all 6 stoneskins for as much hp as possible (6th stoneskin was 60th card... grr...) but you have the option of either being *patient* (har har see what I did there) or just going for the kill as soon as you have it.

The deck would also largely work unupped and nymphless, with a few modifications.  The queens can be swapped for nymph's tears easily, and might not be needed at all.  The auburns, as I mentioned, have substitutes in the form of wardens, basilisk blood, congeal, or even just a couple earth towers for tears targets.  I'd also add more quanta if it was run primarily unupped.  The most important upgrade in the deck is the diamond shield, because it blocks the pufferfish, but you could get by without most of the rest, although the octopi help since you don't have to congeal as often with them, as it lasts 4 turns instead of 3.  I'll probably tweak it a bit, maybe +1 poseidon -1 shield as the poseidon really helped, to try and draw it more, and the ice lances weren't really needed beyond the first few turns to kill early physalia/octopi.

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Re: Oracle : Scorpio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611.msg1074283#msg1074283
« Reply #103 on: May 25, 2013, 03:07:04 pm »
I just always use Poison Dials. His chance to actually draw his (2) Purifies is so low, I've lost maybe 2 out of well over 30 matches against him. In case anyone needs code:

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Re: Oracle : Scorpio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611.msg1074312#msg1074312
« Reply #104 on: May 25, 2013, 05:57:59 pm »
Hmm, maybe I just had bad luck with pdials then :p  I tried it a couple times and lost them all.  Certainly, if you ignore the purifies, then pdials should be fairly successful.

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Re: Oracle : Scorpio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611.msg1086235#msg1086235
« Reply #105 on: July 11, 2013, 05:16:19 pm »
so, won with the  :aether :water duo deck, but there was something weird that happened. At the end of my turn I had +1 from purify. at the start of my next turn, I had +3. I saw his hand fading away & he played a purify, but I wasn't quick enough to get a screeny. it seemed like Scorpio used one of his purifies on me, but I haven't the slightest idea why. This happen with anyone else?

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Re: Oracle : Scorpio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611.msg1086281#msg1086281
« Reply #106 on: July 11, 2013, 08:07:52 pm »
AI will do it if you have shard of sacrifice active, to get rid of it, but with aether/water, you obviously weren't doing that.  The other time I've seen this is when the AI has a reflective shield and purifies itself, it will reflect onto you, but I think the AI flaw with that was fixed, plus scorpio has no reflective shields.  I guess maybe the AI got confused and thought one of those situations was true when it wasn't, perhaps?

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Re: Oracle : Scorpio https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611.msg1086282#msg1086282
« Reply #107 on: July 11, 2013, 08:10:37 pm »
I can't find the actual post right now but I remember reading about a bug report about AI targeting the player with purify for no good reason.

 

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