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Re: What element that you want to control? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47850.msg1052748#msg1052748
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2013, 12:20:02 am »
All while I remove the air some of you breathe while poison others with too much oxygen.

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Re: What element that you want to control? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47850.msg1052775#msg1052775
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2013, 01:42:33 am »
While you forgot that O2 is technically a compound, therefore you need special power to control that.

If it's single element, the most useful and versatile one is Carbon indeed.
1. It's used in too many compounds, should you be able to control it. From poison to food to weapon.
2. Even if you can only control -pure- element, pure carbon can be turned into graphite or diamond, for strength or if you want to plain suffocate people.

Against Arsenic? Just swallow some and absorb the poison.
Against Oxygen removal? Just take some carbon dioxide and remove the carbon. Fresh air voila!
Against metallic elements? Well, carbon shield is always useful.
Against Sulfur, carbon can filter all those filthy air too.
Against Hydrogen, just fuse them and you get hydrocarbon compounds (preferably poisonous) to counter.

As an extra bonus, you can easily get drunk too. (alcohol is C2H5OH)
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Re: What element that you want to control? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47850.msg1052790#msg1052790
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2013, 02:57:44 am »
I assumed the control of individual elements also meant the control of relevant compounds.

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Re: What element that you want to control? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47850.msg1052793#msg1052793
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2013, 03:06:48 am »
I assumed the control of individual elements also meant the control of relevant compounds.

What if we can control one of the periodic table elements?
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Re: What element that you want to control? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47850.msg1052799#msg1052799
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2013, 03:32:19 am »
I assumed the control of individual elements also meant the control of relevant compounds.

What if we can control one of the periodic table elements?

Yes,  An element.  By manipulating the oxygen molecules in a compound, can one not control the entire thing?

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Re: What element that you want to control? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47850.msg1052801#msg1052801
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2013, 03:39:55 am »
I assumed the control of individual elements also meant the control of relevant compounds.

What if we can control one of the periodic table elements?

Yes,  An element.  By manipulating the oxygen molecules in a compound, can one not control the entire thing?
No.
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Re: What element that you want to control? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47850.msg1052802#msg1052802
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2013, 03:41:53 am »
When one tows an object, do they not carry the entirety of the load, not just where it is harnessed?

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Re: What element that you want to control? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47850.msg1052804#msg1052804
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2013, 03:47:33 am »
When one tows an object, do they not carry the entirety of the load, not just where it is harnessed?
That's not controlling, just lugging around. You're not changing any properties or exerting any other action that would really constitute controlling.
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Re: What element that you want to control? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47850.msg1052805#msg1052805
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2013, 03:54:18 am »
When one tows an object, do they not carry the entirety of the load, not just where it is harnessed?
That's not controlling, just lugging around. You're not changing any properties or exerting any other action that would really constitute controlling.

I don't recall ever saying anything regarding changing any properties.  At least not chemical.  Wouldn't it feasible to say that with control over Oxygen, one may be able to manipulate water molecules simply by having the Oxygen carry it around?  To be able to manipulate how close and how fast molecules, and subsequently the compounds they make up, react with each other to change physical properties [e.g. limiting molecular movement in water in a compressed state to turn it to ice, to speed up its actions to generate heat and, as a result, steam]?

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Re: What element that you want to control? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47850.msg1052806#msg1052806
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2013, 03:59:03 am »
When one tows an object, do they not carry the entirety of the load, not just where it is harnessed?
That's not controlling, just lugging around. You're not changing any properties or exerting any other action that would really constitute controlling.

I don't recall ever saying anything regarding changing any properties.  At least not chemical.  Wouldn't it feasible to say that with control over Oxygen, one may be able to manipulate water molecules simply by having the Oxygen carry it around?  To be able to manipulate how close and how fast molecules, and subsequently the compounds they make up, react with each other to change physical properties [e.g. limiting molecular movement in water in a compressed state to turn it to ice, to speed up its actions to generate heat and, as a result, steam]?
That sounds to me like controlling Water, not Oxygen.
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Re: What element that you want to control? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47850.msg1052807#msg1052807
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2013, 04:01:21 am »
Yes.  Controlling water by means of controlling the oxygen molecule in it.

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« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2013, 04:09:24 am »
Yes.  Controlling water by means of controlling the oxygen molecule in it.
To control water, in the pretext that you can only control one element, should not be possible. You'd need the power to control both Oxygen and Hydrogen. Manipulating the part /= manipulating the whole.
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