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Re: Meaning of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42444.msg528938#msg528938
« Reply #36 on: August 04, 2012, 06:00:21 pm »
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Re: Meaning of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42444.msg528953#msg528953
« Reply #37 on: August 04, 2012, 06:33:18 pm »
1. An opposite is something that contradicts something. Like heat contradicts cold, life contradicts death.
Please expand on this.

Something cannot be 2 of Warm, Hot or Cold.
You have said Hot and Cold are opposites
Are you also implying Hot and Warm are opposites?

3 and -3 are opposites.
Are 1 and 3 opposites?

What is the opposite of 0?

I know Arum is not trolling, because time's existence is NOT a troll-question, but a serious question which has been food for though for generations of scientists. I can't believe you think such a serious question is trolling; the greatest minds of humanity have tried to give an answer here... :-\
The nature of time's existence is a serious question for philosophers and physicists.
The existence of a particular model of time is a serious question for philosophers and physicists.
The existence of time is usually assumed due to overwhelming empirical evidence (compounded by the evidence you witness while reading this).
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Re: Meaning of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42444.msg528956#msg528956
« Reply #38 on: August 04, 2012, 06:36:55 pm »
1. An opposite is something that contradicts something. Like heat contradicts cold, life contradicts death.
Please expand on this.

Something cannot be 2 of Warm, Hot or Cold.
You have said Hot and Cold are opposites
Are you also implying Hot and Warm are opposites?

3 and -3 are opposites.
Are 1 and 3 opposites?

What is the opposite of 0?

I know Arum is not trolling, because time's existence is NOT a troll-question, but a serious question which has been food for though for generations of scientists. I can't believe you think such a serious question is trolling; the greatest minds of humanity have tried to give an answer here... :-\
The nature of time's existence is a serious question for philosophers and physicists.
The existence of a particular model of time is a serious question for philosophers and physicists.
The existence of time is usually assumed due to overwhelming empirical evidence (compounded by the evidence you witnesses while reading this).
Hot and warm are similar, which means they are not opposites. But cold and warm are opposites.
1 and 3 are not opposites, for the same reason. 0 isn't an opposite of anything or rather, is an actual thing. 0 of anything means it is void. 0 is a void.
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Re: Meaning of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42444.msg528959#msg528959
« Reply #39 on: August 04, 2012, 06:45:41 pm »
1. An opposite is something that contradicts something. Like heat contradicts cold, life contradicts death.
Please expand on this.

Something cannot be 2 of Warm, Hot or Cold.
You have said Hot and Cold are opposites
Are you also implying Hot and Warm are opposites?

3 and -3 are opposites.
Are 1 and 3 opposites?

What is the opposite of 0?

I know Arum is not trolling, because time's existence is NOT a troll-question, but a serious question which has been food for though for generations of scientists. I can't believe you think such a serious question is trolling; the greatest minds of humanity have tried to give an answer here... :-\
The nature of time's existence is a serious question for philosophers and physicists.
The existence of a particular model of time is a serious question for philosophers and physicists.
The existence of time is usually assumed due to overwhelming empirical evidence (compounded by the evidence you witnesses while reading this).
Hot and warm are similar, which means they are not opposites. But cold and warm are opposites.
1 and 3 are not opposites, for the same reason. 0 isn't an opposite of anything or rather, is an actual thing. 0 of anything means it is void. 0 is a void.
What is the opposite of "H"?

If Hot and Cold are opposites and Warm and Cold are opposites then are -3 and 1 opposites?
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Re: Meaning of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42444.msg528963#msg528963
« Reply #40 on: August 04, 2012, 06:49:42 pm »
1. An opposite is something that contradicts something. Like heat contradicts cold, life contradicts death.
Please expand on this.

Something cannot be 2 of Warm, Hot or Cold.
You have said Hot and Cold are opposites
Are you also implying Hot and Warm are opposites?

3 and -3 are opposites.
Are 1 and 3 opposites?

What is the opposite of 0?

I know Arum is not trolling, because time's existence is NOT a troll-question, but a serious question which has been food for though for generations of scientists. I can't believe you think such a serious question is trolling; the greatest minds of humanity have tried to give an answer here... :-\
The nature of time's existence is a serious question for philosophers and physicists.
The existence of a particular model of time is a serious question for philosophers and physicists.
The existence of time is usually assumed due to overwhelming empirical evidence (compounded by the evidence you witnesses while reading this).
Hot and warm are similar, which means they are not opposites. But cold and warm are opposites.
1 and 3 are not opposites, for the same reason. 0 isn't an opposite of anything or rather, is an actual thing. 0 of anything means it is void. 0 is a void.
What is the opposite of "H"?

If Hot and Cold are opposites and Warm and Cold are opposites then are -3 and 1 opposites?
Opposite of H is I.
-3 and 1 are opposites, being of different sides of 0.
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Re: Meaning of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42444.msg528965#msg528965
« Reply #41 on: August 04, 2012, 06:52:10 pm »
Opposite of H is I.
-3 and 1 are opposites, being of different sides of 0.
How is I the opposite of H?

Variable1<Variable2<Variable3
Are Variable1 and Variable3 opposites, being of different sides of Variable2?
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Re: Meaning of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42444.msg528966#msg528966
« Reply #42 on: August 04, 2012, 06:55:42 pm »
Opposite of H is I.
-3 and 1 are opposites, being of different sides of 0.
How is I the opposite of H?

Variable1<Variable2<Variable3
Are Variable1 and Variable3 opposites, being of different sides of Variable2?
I is the opposite of H, being a vowel rather than a consonant, and also being H rotated.
The variable depends, but no, not really. They need a direct opposition, and a relation.
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Re: Meaning of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42444.msg528968#msg528968
« Reply #43 on: August 04, 2012, 07:01:26 pm »
Opposite of H is I.
-3 and 1 are opposites, being of different sides of 0.
How is I the opposite of H?

Variable1<Variable2<Variable3
Are Variable1 and Variable3 opposites, being of different sides of Variable2?
I is the opposite of H, being a vowel rather than a consonant, and also being H rotated.
The variable depends, but no, not really. They need a direct opposition, and a relation.
So 'O' is the opposite of '0' since one is a letter and the other is a digit?

PS: Did you know that most people would consider 3 or less points to be the opposite of (1,1). You have given answers above that make me assume by your definition all points outside of the 1st quadrant would be opposites of (1,1).
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Re: Meaning of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42444.msg528974#msg528974
« Reply #44 on: August 04, 2012, 07:24:19 pm »
Opposite of H is I.
-3 and 1 are opposites, being of different sides of 0.
How is I the opposite of H?

Variable1<Variable2<Variable3
Are Variable1 and Variable3 opposites, being of different sides of Variable2?
I is the opposite of H, being a vowel rather than a consonant, and also being H rotated.
The variable depends, but no, not really. They need a direct opposition, and a relation.
So 'O' is the opposite of '0' since one is a letter and the other is a digit?

PS: Did you know that most people would consider 3 or less points to be the opposite of (1,1). You have given answers above that make me assume by your definition all points outside of the 1st quadrant would be opposites of (1,1).
Yes.
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Re: Meaning of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42444.msg528977#msg528977
« Reply #45 on: August 04, 2012, 07:32:03 pm »
Based on your responses I think one could argue that
1(not a prime) is an opposite of 3(a prime) via your definition of opposite
Time has at least 3 opposites (Length, Width and Depth). By using 2D X=Y lines. (1,0 is the opposite of i,0 is the opposite of 0,1 is the opposite of 0,i)

If I have a set with 1 member, what is the opposite of that member?
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Re: Meaning of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42444.msg528979#msg528979
« Reply #46 on: August 04, 2012, 07:45:52 pm »
Based on your responses I think one could argue that
1(not a prime) is an opposite of 3(a prime) via your definition of opposite
Time has at least 3 opposites (Length, Width and Depth). By using 2D X=Y lines. (1,0 is the opposite of i,0 is the opposite of 0,1 is the opposite of 0,i)

If I have a set with 1 member, what is the opposite of that member?
Whatever it is that contradicts that member.
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Re: Meaning of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42444.msg528990#msg528990
« Reply #47 on: August 04, 2012, 08:15:35 pm »
Based on your responses I think one could argue that
1(not a prime) is an opposite of 3(a prime) via your definition of opposite
Time has at least 3 opposites (Length, Width and Depth). By using 2D X=Y lines. (1,0 is the opposite of i,0 is the opposite of 0,1 is the opposite of 0,i)

If I have a set with 1 member, what is the opposite of that member?
Whatever it is that contradicts that member.
I think your definition of opposite can be used to the point of meaninglessness.

I have a concept. By classifying a set containing only that concept, all other concepts are opposites of that concept because they are on the opposite side of the border of the set.
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