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Meaning of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42444.msg528516#msg528516
« on: August 03, 2012, 01:18:22 pm »
Time has a problem. It can't logically exist.

Here, look at it this way. Everything has an opposite that it exists with. Life has death. Love has hate. Time has stasis, but where is stasis shown?
Stasis only appears in our perception of time, yet it doesn't affect anything else. This means that Time is only a part of perception, and not a real event or thing. It is only an abstract word for an experience that happens during our life.

This means we can perceive time however we like, with a second being forever or an hour being a very short length of experience in the world.
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Re: Meaning of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42444.msg528517#msg528517
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2012, 01:24:52 pm »
That's pretty awkward, because time actually does exist. And, as it just so happens, the existence of time is pretty integral to modern physics and our understanding of the universe.

You say that everything has an opposite, but don't say why. Why must everything have an opposite? Why is death the opposite of life? Why is hate the opposite of love? Why is stasis the opposite of time? It seems that your pattern for choosing an opposite is ill-defined and fairly arbitrary. What if the opposite of life is non-life (different to death) and the opposite of love is apathy?
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Re: Meaning of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42444.msg528518#msg528518
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2012, 01:25:16 pm »
Quote from: Arum on August 03, 2012, 01:18:22 pm
Everything has an opposite that it exists with.
What's the opposite of a book.
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Re: Meaning of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42444.msg528519#msg528519
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2012, 01:28:24 pm »
Quote from: Jenkar on August 03, 2012, 01:25:16 pm
Quote from: Arum on August 03, 2012, 01:18:22 pm
Everything has an opposite that it exists with.
What's the opposite of a book.
Journal or movie.
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Re: Meaning of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42444.msg528520#msg528520
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2012, 01:28:57 pm »
Quote from: Xenocidius on August 03, 2012, 01:24:52 pm
That's pretty awkward, because time actually does exist. And, as it just so happens, the existence of time is pretty integral to modern physics and our understanding of the universe.

You say that everything has an opposite, but don't say why. Why must everything have an opposite? Why is death the opposite of life? Why is hate the opposite of love? Why is stasis the opposite of time? It seems that your pattern for choosing an opposite is ill-defined and fairly arbitrary. What if the opposite of life is non-life (different to death) and the opposite of love is apathy?
As long as there is a defined line, something can have many opposites.
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Re: Meaning of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42444.msg528523#msg528523
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2012, 01:35:38 pm »
Quote from: Arum on August 03, 2012, 01:28:24 pm
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Quote from: Arum on August 03, 2012, 01:18:22 pm
Everything has an opposite that it exists with.
What's the opposite of a book.
Journal or movie.
Okay, seems we have a different notion of opposite. What is your definition of opposite.
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Re: Meaning of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42444.msg528534#msg528534
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2012, 02:41:24 pm »
Quote from: Jenkar on August 03, 2012, 01:35:38 pm
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Everything has an opposite that it exists with.
What's the opposite of a book.
Journal or movie.
Okay, seems we have a different notion of opposite. What is your definition of opposite.
Opposite: Adj. A term used to describe a cancellation of each other in some way or form.
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Re: Meaning of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42444.msg528538#msg528538
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2012, 02:44:07 pm »
.... then you have to explain how a journal/movie cancels a book, in any way or form.
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Re: Meaning of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42444.msg528540#msg528540
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2012, 02:46:59 pm »
Quote from: Jenkar on August 03, 2012, 02:44:07 pm
.... then you have to explain how a journal/movie cancels a book, in any way or form.
A book you read. It is physical.
A movie you watch. It is more static.

Physical movement=/=automative movement

A journal you write.
A book you read.

Read=/=write
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Re: Meaning of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42444.msg528541#msg528541
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2012, 02:50:09 pm »
Quote from: Arum on August 03, 2012, 02:46:59 pm
Quote from: Jenkar on August 03, 2012, 02:44:07 pm
.... then you have to explain how a journal/movie cancels a book, in any way or form.
A book you read. It is physical.
A movie you watch. It is more static.

Physical movement=/=automative movement

A journal you write.
A book you read.

Read=/=write
A bike you ride
A life you experience
ride =/= experience
Life =/= bike
=/= is not the same as opposite.
Life =/= opposite of bike

What is the opposite of height? Why?
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Re: Meaning of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42444.msg528545#msg528545
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2012, 03:31:01 pm »
Quote from: OldTrees on August 03, 2012, 02:50:09 pm
Quote from: Arum on August 03, 2012, 02:46:59 pm
Quote from: Jenkar on August 03, 2012, 02:44:07 pm
.... then you have to explain how a journal/movie cancels a book, in any way or form.
A book you read. It is physical.
A movie you watch. It is more static.

Physical movement=/=automative movement

A journal you write.
A book you read.

Read=/=write
A bike you ride
A life you experience
ride =/= experience
Life =/= bike
=/= is not the same as opposite.
Life =/= opposite of bike

What is the opposite of height? Why?
It depends on what height. If it is general height, then height will cancel itself out.
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Re: Meaning of time https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42444.msg528549#msg528549
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2012, 03:35:23 pm »
Quote from: Arum on August 03, 2012, 03:31:01 pm
Quote from: OldTrees on August 03, 2012, 02:50:09 pm
Quote from: Arum on August 03, 2012, 02:46:59 pm
Quote from: Jenkar on August 03, 2012, 02:44:07 pm
.... then you have to explain how a journal/movie cancels a book, in any way or form.
A book you read. It is physical.
A movie you watch. It is more static.

Physical movement=/=automative movement

A journal you write.
A book you read.

Read=/=write
A bike you ride
A life you experience
ride =/= experience
Life =/= bike
=/= is not the same as opposite.
Life =/= opposite of bike

What is the opposite of height? Why?
It depends on what height. If it is general height, then height will cancel itself out.
Height is a dimension (Y). Time is a dimension. It is not unreasonable to assume that if a dimension counts that other dimensions would also count.
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