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Fun with math: infinite elephants https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25813.msg329099#msg329099
« on: May 07, 2011, 08:43:49 pm »
I had a hard time deciding between science, humour and visual arts for this one.  Sorry if I chose the wrong area, but I figured it was more about math than anything.

I got a kick out of this video, but then, I'm a nerd.  :P 

(Warning, she talks fast.)


Anyone here find anything equally nerd-tastic while doodling like this in math or science?  I used to draw flipbook versions of the physics work we had to do in grade 12.  Momentum is cruel to poor stickman.  :))

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Re: Fun with math: infinite elephants https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25813.msg329108#msg329108
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2011, 09:06:28 pm »
<--- Sucks at math

Anyways, Nonstop talking for 4 min and 36 sex? :o

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Re: Fun with math: infinite elephants https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25813.msg329118#msg329118
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2011, 09:18:46 pm »
I find that girl attractive because of her voice, her math skills, and her drawing. Awesome video btw
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Re: Fun with math: infinite elephants https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25813.msg329127#msg329127
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2011, 09:32:16 pm »
I find that girl attractive because of her voice, her math skills, and her drawing. Awesome video btw
Does that mean I found proof that math is sexy?  8)

She's got a whole collection of various vids on math in doodles.  I really recommend her presentation of pi vs. tau if you like delving further into mathematical frontiers.

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Re: Fun with math: infinite elephants https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25813.msg329138#msg329138
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2011, 09:43:44 pm »
To be honest, I didn't really learn anything new in this video. I'm taking the most advanced math class in my high school (it has university year one materials), so that's probably why. Still, it's a pretty awesome video.

I find that girl attractive because of her voice, her math skills, and her drawing. Awesome video btw
Same here.
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Re: Fun with math: infinite elephants https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25813.msg329143#msg329143
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2011, 09:51:58 pm »
Surprised I get the basics of what she's saying, even though I'm a HS freshman. Then again math has always been my strong suit.

I find that girl attractive because of her voice, her math skills, and her drawing.
Too bad she didn't slip her autograph into one of those doodles :P
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Re: Fun with math: infinite elephants https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25813.msg329150#msg329150
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2011, 10:08:18 pm »
Surprised I get the basics of what she's saying, even though I'm a HS freshman. Then again math has always been my strong suit.

I find that girl attractive because of her voice, her math skills, and her drawing.
Too bad she didn't slip her autograph into one of those doodles :P
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Re: Fun with math: infinite elephants https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25813.msg329157#msg329157
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2011, 10:16:04 pm »
Is she single?

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Re: Fun with math: infinite elephants https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25813.msg329158#msg329158
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2011, 10:24:33 pm »
JEEZ! Does she ever inhale?
Amazing video though, I wish I had done something similar when I learned about them.

Re: Fun with math: infinite elephants https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25813.msg329161#msg329161
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2011, 10:29:24 pm »
Continuation of my last post, a proof that music BY ITSELF is sexy squared:

The tone A440hz is one octave below A880hz.  This is because an octave represents a doubling in frequency... an octave is also the most consonant (uniform-sounding) interval, thanks to the fact that the waveforms of the two notes meet in the maximum number of places - every other crest of the lower note.  You've added 1/1 of the lower frequency to get the upper.

A fifth is the second most consonant interval, the waveforms meet at every third crest of the lower note, and the frequency of the higher is 50% larger than the lower.  A fifth above A440hz is E660hz.  You've added 1/2 of the lower frequency to get the upper.

A fourth is next in line, being the third most consonant interval, the two waveforms meeting at every fourth crest of the lower note.  The frequency of the higher is 33.33...% larger than the lower.  A fourth above E660hz is A880hz (yay, fifth plus fourth equals octave), and you've added 1/3 of the lower frequency to get the upper.

And so on, ad infinitum.  Our western system of logarithmic frequencies is limited in its precision, though - the smallest interval being the minor second, or one semitone.  An octave is 12 semitones, a fifth is 7 semitones, a fourth is 5 semitones.  Some civilizations (notably India) use quarter-tones as well, and their music may sound unusual to us, but it has twice the capacity for precision, since a quarter-tone is logarithmically twice as small as a semitone.

Pianos used to be tuned to "mean-temperament," which was sloppier than modern methods, but produced a slightly darker/brighter set of tones in each "diatonic" scale - the D-flat scale was very dark-sounding, while the A scale was very bright-sounding.  We now use "equal-temperament," which is more precise along the logarithmic curve, but produces a set of "diatonic" scales which sound exactly the same except for their relative pitches - there are no differences between the proportions of notes from one scale to the next.  All scales sound middle-of-the-road on brightness.  If you are familiar with a modern piano's sound and you ever have the chance to play on a piano that has been tuned to mean-temperament (or possibly a harpsichord), you will immediately notice a difference.

I could then go into what makes a "diatonic" scale diatonic, the differences between diatonic and arabic scales, mode translation, and possibly concert pitch and transposition, but the above is probably enough to freak out some people's "nerd cool-meters."  I geek out a bit when I talk about this side of music to people!  8)

(An aside: A440hz is what orchestras and other groups use as a tuning standard for instruments.  I work at a store which has a key letter and several key numbers for each department; A is the health and beauty care department, and one of A's key numbers is 440.  No one at work got why I was so excited.)

Re: Fun with math: infinite elephants https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25813.msg329169#msg329169
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2011, 10:49:46 pm »
In an attempt to separate this next bit, I decided to do something rare: double-post.

In college classes, I would do something like this girl does in the video, except with polygons of n sides, where n doubles each time.  I'd take an equilateral triangle or a square, extend each side a bit, then bisect the resulting angle.  The result would be a polygon with twice as many sides as the one I started with (hexagon or octagon).  Do this enough times, and you get a very nearly perfect "circle" - though actual circles do not exist made out of matter in the real world, only in mathematical concept, since subatomic particles and even quarks are assumed to have volume, meaning every "circle" made out of matter is actually a polygon with a very large number of sides!

This exercise is especially fun with an equilateral pentagon... though making an equilateral pentagon with a pencil in the first place is much more difficult!

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Re: Fun with math: infinite elephants https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25813.msg329173#msg329173
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2011, 10:54:50 pm »
I think I'm in love.

Anyway, very fun video. I would enjoy it more if the speed was, you know, normal. Or maybe it is normal? Well, I'll assume it isn't. No one can draw circles or elephants THAT fast.

 

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