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Re: Divisors from a Prime factorization https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55636.msg1154540#msg1154540
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2014, 09:10:28 pm »
Again, you don't need to separate the factors into three different groups. You can treat them all as (2^x)(3^y)(5^z) where x, y, and z might be 0.

Just wondering, how familiar are you with competition-level math problem solving?
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Re: Divisors from a Prime factorization https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55636.msg1154543#msg1154543
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2014, 09:14:56 pm »
2*3*5, 223*5, 233*5,..., 2a3*5
2*325, 2232*5, 2332*5,...,2a32*5
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2*3b5,..........................,2a3b5

[I would then need to continue to do this with 2,5 growing and 3,5 growing, then finally all 3 growing and that is where I need help]

===> here the goal is actually list every possible factor (with ... of course, can't list an infinite group)
writing it as "(2^x)(3^y)(5^z) where x, y, and z might be 0" only gives a 'general' sense of every factor

Double's can be listed in this manner (previous post) quite simply
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Re: Divisors from a Prime factorization https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55636.msg1154547#msg1154547
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2014, 09:25:03 pm »
2*3*5, 223*5, 233*5,..., 2a3*5
2*325, 2232*5, 2332*5,...,2a32*5
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2*3b5,..........................,2a3b5

[I would then need to continue to do this with 2,5 growing and 3,5 growing, then finally all 3 growing and that is where I need help]

===> here the goal is actually list every possible factor (with ... of course, can't list an infinite group)
writing it as "(2^x)(3^y)(5^z) where x, y, and z might be 0" only gives a 'general' sense of every factor

Double's can be listed in this manner (previous post) quite simply
If you want to extend it so that it has all 3 factors, just repeat it like this:

203050, 213050, 223050,..., 2a3050
203150, 213150, 223150,...,2a3150
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203b50,..........................,2a3b50

203051, 213051, 223051,..., 2a3052
203152, 213152, 223152,...,2a3152
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203b52,..........................,2a3b52

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20305c, 21305c, 22305c,..., 2a305c
20315c, 21315c, 22315c,...,2a315c
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203b5c,..........................,2a3b5c

For finite a, b, c, etc., this works in exactly the same way as CuCN's notation, except that instead of one long list, this is a bunch of shorter lists.
(hopefully I've fixed all of the errors that I had in it at first...)
« Last Edit: September 08, 2014, 09:39:16 pm by Lost in Nowhere »
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Re: Divisors from a Prime factorization https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55636.msg1154558#msg1154558
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2014, 10:14:19 pm »
Where are the single 5 digits factors in your list

Also, I was just asking for a list extending when 2,3,5 are all raised to some power n>=1 (you have included 0, but doing doubles and singles should be kept separate for readability purposes)

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Re: Divisors from a Prime factorization https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55636.msg1154560#msg1154560
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2014, 10:35:49 pm »
The factors of 5 are in the top-left of each block.
I see no reason to overcomplicate the format for the purpose of readability, when it would only give seemingly marginal improvements. At least to me, this format seems like it's the simplest, especially when you increase the number of factors.
But that's just me. Since you asked:
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21, 22, ... 2a
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31, 32, ... 3b
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51, 52, ... 5c
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2131, 2131, ... 2a31
2132, 2132, ... 2a32
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213b, 213b, ... 2a3b
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2131, 2131, ... 2a31
2132, 2132, ... 2a32
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213b, 213b, ... 2a3b
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2151, 2151, ... 2a51
2152, 2152, ... 2a52
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215b, 215b, ... 2a5b
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3151, 3151, ... 3a51
3152, 3152, ... 3a52
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315b, 315b, ... 3a5b
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213151, 213151, ... 2a3151
213251, 213251, ... 2a3251
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213b51, 213b51, ... 2a3b51

213152, 213152, ... 2a3152
213252, 213252, ... 2a3252
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213b52, 213b52, ... 2a3b52

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21315c, 21315c, ... 2a315c
21325c, 21325c, ... 2a325c
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213b5c, 213b5c, ... 2a3b5c
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Re: Divisors from a Prime factorization https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55636.msg1154563#msg1154563
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2014, 11:31:09 pm »
If you look closely, that's exactly what CuCN was talking about.

Also, to list all factors there is no correspondence that I think you'd find simple, but they all revolve on listing (x,y,z) for the values where x, y AND z are small in some sense and then working their way to infinity.

For example, you can start listing (using CuCN's method for example), all triples such that x,y,z < n at first for n=1, then 2, 3, 4, ... However, when you list the case n=4, for example, you must omit the cases that were enumerated up to n=3 to avoid repetitions.
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