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Re: a solution to the time travel paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26920.msg372473#msg372473
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2011, 02:48:50 am »
Well, from what I've heard, some speculate that a kind of alternate universe would be created (at least my psyche teacher says so).

Sometimes time travel feels so....far..

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Re: a solution to the time travel paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26920.msg372637#msg372637
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2011, 01:45:04 pm »
actually, i just thought of a new solution. if you go back in time, during the time you are there, you affect the world as you wish, but if you go back, then after the time that you were there, the world returns to how it should be, as you simply removecause and effect, but you don't change each of the infinite moments of time after you leave.
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Re: a solution to the time travel paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26920.msg372713#msg372713
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2011, 04:20:29 pm »
There are several ideas behind the nature of time travel, which are somewhat interesting to think about.

1) "Change the Past"

When you go back in time, it was not meant to happen. That means that anything you do could potentially change the future, even the smallest things.
This is the point of view where the paradox exists strongest.

2) "Everything was meant to happen."

This is the idea that everything that ever happens, including time travel, happens along one timeline. This means you don't just go back in time to kill your grandfather, you already have. Yet somehow you were born anyways, possibly you were adopted, or are an illegitimate child. This type of world the paradox is somewhat disproved by the idea that it cannot possibly happen, otherwise it already has.

3) "World Lines"

Everytime a choice is made, the universe splits into 2 or more "Lines". Chaos Theory supplies the idea that even if 2 circumstances are exactly the same, it's still possible for different outcomes to show. This means that there are many possible futures, all alongside each other. (Or alternately, many different Lines, all leading towards the same future."
In this theory the paradox is disproved because if you go back and initiate the paradox, it simply causes the world to shift to a line where you don't exist.


The other thing is what I noticed about materialization, since according to science it is generally impossible.
Especially related to Teleportation, there's usually 3ish different ways they go about how things rematerialize.

1) "Amalgamation"

When you materialize, your particles get mixed up with whatever particles are in the area where you appeared. If you missed and put yourself in a rock wall, you would be pretty dead. If you appear where another person was, you would sort of get mixed up together in a weird way. Usually the idea that air is there as well is ignored and nothing bad happens if you materialize in the air.

2) "Interception"

In the instant that an object materializes, it pushes any matter that was there out of the way.
For example, if a piece of paper materialized where a cup was, it would "Push" the cup apart, leading it into being cut in half.
If you materialized in a rock wall in this case, you would push the rock aside, but it will still probably crush you anyways.

3) "Replacement"

When you materialize, you replace all the matter where you end up. Either it just disappears, or it gets swapped to where you were originally.
In this case, if you ended up in a rock wall, you would stilll be alive, but you wouldn't be able to move ant would run out of air sooner or later.

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Re: a solution to the time travel paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26920.msg372714#msg372714
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2011, 04:22:37 pm »
My theory: You time travel. There's two of you. You crash the universe, and Doctor Whooves reboots it. You remember nothing.

EDIT: This has probably happened already.
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Re: a solution to the time travel paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26920.msg373223#msg373223
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2011, 06:07:34 pm »
Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy says,

"One of the major problems encountered in time travel is not that of becoming your own father or mother. There is no problem in becoming your own father or mother that a broad-minded and well-adjusted family can't cope with. There is no problem with changing the course of history—the course of history does not change because it all fits together like a jigsaw. All the important changes have happened before the things they were supposed to change and it all sorts itself out in the end."

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Re: a solution to the time travel paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26920.msg373255#msg373255
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2011, 06:47:28 pm »


This is kinda what I think of it. Similar to the 'multiple timelines' but I also try to understand that if that were the case, all the timelines would be equal, therefore an act committed in the present would have already happened in the future. There are uncountable timezones in-between each second, but I tried making it easier to understand.

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Re: a solution to the time travel paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26920.msg373259#msg373259
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2011, 06:50:21 pm »
Oops, Horizontal lines mean someone going through time travel.
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Re: a solution to the time travel paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26920.msg373349#msg373349
« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2011, 09:58:58 pm »
Well, I know Stephen Hawking has said that time travel as we normally think about it is impossible. He says that traveling backwards in time is impossible, however, a solution to traveling forward is to go really, really fast. Then time will slow down for you and when you stop going so fast everyone else will have aged by half the amount that you did. Not how we usually think of it, but there's my 2 :electrum worth. Or rather, Stephen Hawking's 2 :electrum worth.
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Re: a solution to the time travel paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26920.msg390378#msg390378
« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2011, 07:58:09 pm »
ive always been a fan of the present being what it is in spite of (or because of) any time travel that has taken place.  thus, if you go back in time and try to kill your grandfather, you will fail.  and fail so spectacularly that it wont even be worth a mention.  this is really the only way time travel is possible if you restrict yourself to only viewing/travelling the 4th dimmension.  the 5th and 6th dimmensions account for all possibilities, including those that involve time travel, and if you are looking at those, there are already universes where you went back in time and killed your grandfather, causing yourself not to be born in that timeline, but you still exist in others, so again no paradox.
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Re: a solution to the time travel paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26920.msg390903#msg390903
« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2011, 09:46:07 pm »
Rethinking.

1: You go back in time.
2: You meet yourself.
3: You kill yourself.
4: You disappear.
5: Time rewrites itself from that moment on.
6: ???
7: Time profit.
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Re: a solution to the time travel paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26920.msg390937#msg390937
« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2011, 10:34:12 pm »
Anyone seen the movie Triangle? It was an interesting movie. I didnt like it, but it was interesting none the less.

She gets stuck on a boat, and there are several killers on board. She ends up surviving even though all her friends die and then she looks out from the boat and sees that her friends (that she thought were dead were on their way to the boat. They get stuck in this loop the whole time. She eventually finds out that...  She is all the killers, and they are all her from an alternate timelime. Ultimately she never leaves
Just an interesting take. I am horrible at explaining movies though, so if someone else saw the movie, they would probably be able to explain it better.
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Re: a solution to the time travel paradox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26920.msg410168#msg410168
« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2011, 06:55:04 am »
but even in a parallel universe your grandmother IS STILL your grandmother and your conception is impossible without her existence, even in an alternate universe

 

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