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Sacrifice - Standings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54930.msg1144485#msg1144485
« on: July 08, 2014, 04:52:09 pm »
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Re: Sacrifice - Standings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54930.msg1145468#msg1145468
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2014, 04:38:56 pm »
It's again time for some KakerStats: Google Spreadsheet - KakerStats Sacrifice

I've been playing around with some sort of "Scaryness"-rating. This rating is now automatically calculated in the sheet. It increases lots when someone beats a player with more upps and even more if that player has a high scary rating. As the name suggests, it should imply what players you should be scared of :3

I think I'll call the unit of the rating "Afraid". I have currently 13.4 Afraid, yay xD

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Re: Sacrifice - Standings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54930.msg1145474#msg1145474
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2014, 05:23:09 pm »
That's incredibly interesting. Thanks for making that; I can tell you put a ton of work into it. I've been keeping track here. Would yours be able to include opponent wins automatically? If it's not too much work of course.
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Re: Sacrifice - Standings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54930.msg1145476#msg1145476
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2014, 05:26:45 pm »
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Re: Sacrifice - Standings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54930.msg1145486#msg1145486
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2014, 05:46:15 pm »
That's incredibly interesting. Thanks for making that; I can tell you put a ton of work into it. I've been keeping track here. Would yours be able to include opponent wins automatically? If it's not too much work of course.
Everything on the first page is calculated automatically (formula is in cell B5). All I have to enter are the round Results (and Matchup stuff) in the according page. I could try and make a formula to automatically download the stuff from your page... but I guess it would be less work to just write matchups by hand.

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Re: Sacrifice - Standings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54930.msg1145487#msg1145487
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2014, 05:57:43 pm »
Everything on the first page is calculated automatically (formula is in cell B5). All I have to enter are the round Results (and Matchup stuff) in the according page. I could try and make a formula to automatically download the stuff from your page... but I guess it would be less work to just write matchups by hand.
What I meant was Opponent Wins - as in how many wins your opponents have. For example, CCC has played Blacksmith and Dm, who each have 3 wins, so CCC has 6 Opponent Wins. Submachine has played Naesala and ji412jo, who have 0 and 3 wins respectively, so Submachine has 3 Opponent Wins. This is important because Opponent Wins are the tiebreaker when wins and losses are both tied. Would you be able to automatically calculate Opponent Wins, just by inputting results and matchups?
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Re: Sacrifice - Standings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54930.msg1145488#msg1145488
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2014, 06:05:35 pm »
Everything on the first page is calculated automatically (formula is in cell B5). All I have to enter are the round Results (and Matchup stuff) in the according page. I could try and make a formula to automatically download the stuff from your page... but I guess it would be less work to just write matchups by hand.
What I meant was Opponent Wins - as in how many wins your opponents have. For example, CCC has played Blacksmith and Dm, who each have 3 wins, so CCC has 6 Opponent Wins. Submachine has played Naesala and ji412jo, who have 0 and 3 wins respectively, so Submachine has 3 Opponent Wins. This is important because Opponent Wins are the tiebreaker when wins and losses are both tied. Would you be able to automatically calculate Opponent Wins, just by inputting results and matchups?
Ah, I see. Yes, that can be done easily.
Gimme a couple minutes, I'll add it now. *done*
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Re: Sacrifice - Standings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54930.msg1145493#msg1145493
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2014, 06:43:12 pm »
Alright, thanks! I'll be using your standings from now on, unless you don't get the chance to update them.
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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2014, 06:49:51 pm »
Alright, thanks! I'll be using your standings from now on, unless you don't get the chance to update them.
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Re: Sacrifice - Standings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54930.msg1145500#msg1145500
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I'd be happy to help keep Kaker's sheet updated, much like I did for BL and CL unofficial standings.  I had my own unofficial Sacrifice standings, but Kaker's are more detailed, so I'll be discontinuing mine.
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Re: Sacrifice - Standings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54930.msg1145507#msg1145507
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2014, 07:35:18 pm »
That's incredibly interesting. Thanks for making that; I can tell you put a ton of work into it. I've been keeping track here. Would yours be able to include opponent wins automatically? If it's not too much work of course.
Everything on the first page is calculated automatically (formula is in cell B5). All I have to enter are the round Results (and Matchup stuff) in the according page. I could try and make a formula to automatically download the stuff from your page... but I guess it would be less work to just write matchups by hand.
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Re: Sacrifice - Standings https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54930.msg1146895#msg1146895
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2014, 05:29:00 pm »
I've finished tinkering around with the Scaryness rating and am pretty happy with how it turned out. Well, except for one thing, I'm uncertain how to balance the ups with the wins.

What do you folks think, how do the ups relate to the wins?
Currently, I've made it so that 6 ups count for a free victory. (So if you have 18 ups, you should win 3-0, each loss makes you lose scaryness) [Linear system]
Another idea I had was to have each up increase the win chance by 1% (from 50% for same ammount of ups) and balance the scaryness around the probability of the match score. (so if the score is reached by 30%, scaryness doesn't change much, but if it's 10% scaryness in/decreases quite a lot) [Non linear system]

 

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