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Title: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: Avenger on December 20, 2014, 07:54:13 pm
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Honey birdies ignore discord. We used 3 relics.

1. His start was quick double nova and disco too. He dropped a fog, which i deflagged the moment it reached the table. (That deflag was added to the deck last minute). My fog and his disco made the game a real rng fest.
2. I started with double nova, he had double nova too. But my cc was stronger. This was the closest, without the cc i would have perished.
3. He had a fail draw which couldn't compete with my rush (finished near EM).
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: Calindu on December 20, 2014, 07:55:06 pm
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Game 1: Fog+Vamp dagger made the difference this game, couldn't get an explosion for his fog, like he did.
Game 2: Got close to 3 hp, but not enough, the Discord I got early one was the unupped one.(+2 upped Discords)
Game 3: 1 nova all game, all 3 Discords.(+3 upped Discords, +1 upped Fog).

Ggs Avenger.
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: Vangelios on December 20, 2014, 09:15:14 pm
Fantastic, 3 relics very well used here, of course that RNG save here too, a reward from the previous round drama.
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: CrockettRocket on December 20, 2014, 10:11:24 pm
Wow. Truely amazing. Not even a hard counter. Fire soldier 3-0 a general when the EC makes it harder to win straight. Thats definitely a great use of 3 relics.
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: Vangelios on December 20, 2014, 10:49:54 pm
Yeas but actually is more a LT than a soldier
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: Avenger on December 21, 2014, 10:03:41 am
Wow. Truely amazing. Not even a hard counter. Fire soldier 3-0 a general when the EC makes it harder to win straight. Thats definitely a great use of 3 relics.
Do you still think :fire and :time will perish next? :P
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: CrockettRocket on December 21, 2014, 05:00:38 pm
Wow. Truely amazing. Not even a hard counter. Fire soldier 3-0 a general when the EC makes it harder to win straight. Thats definitely a great use of 3 relics.
Do you still think :fire and :time will perish next? :P
Probably not because of vaults and relics. My comment was based on which element's I think would come out on top if it was just them at the begnning. Fire is in second, time is gonna be struggaling.

Entropy, fire, and darkness all have PC with entropy having the weakest PC. Bye bye aether.
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: Zawadx on December 21, 2014, 05:04:52 pm
Aether's strength isn't in lack of PC; most elements can create a fire duo or darkness domin with PC to beat Dims. It's the fact that their MA is so strong at beating most decks. Add to that Aether's arsenal of archetypes, and you can see that even in a heavy PC environment Aether can be quite competetive.

Also, Entropy's PC doesn't count :P
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: ARTHANASIOS on December 21, 2014, 06:14:23 pm
Also, Entropy's PC doesn't count :P
That's because people don't understand how powerful Butterfly Effect can be within the War vault & deckbuilding restrictions. 8)
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: RavingRabbid on December 21, 2014, 06:18:38 pm
Also, Entropy's PC doesn't count :P
That's because people don't understand how powerful Butterfly Effect can be within the War vault & deckbuilding restrictions. 8)
Butterfly effect sucks. No one sane in mind would ever use it in war.
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: ddevans96 on December 21, 2014, 06:23:41 pm
Butterfly effect sucks. No one sane in mind would ever use it in war.

Yeah... (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/round-1-246/(life-sld-)-arthanasios-3-1-(light-sld-)-acsabi44/)
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: serprex on December 21, 2014, 06:52:20 pm
dd, we already know ARTH is insane
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: ARTHANASIOS on December 21, 2014, 07:28:52 pm
dd, we already know ARTH is insane

Kuro (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/round-2-167/(light-sb)-kuroaitou-3-(life-st)-n00b-2/) is insane too! :P
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: Espithel on December 21, 2014, 08:33:50 pm
You call use of BE insane?
Pfffft

Try it on a singularity that's being constantly antimattered by a nymph.
Who's the insane one now?


Good game all, guys.
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: Annele on December 21, 2014, 08:58:08 pm
inb4 that singularity quints and PUs itself and you die from lack of damage/the extra damage your opponent can play because of its novas
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: CrockettRocket on December 21, 2014, 09:45:19 pm
inb4 that singularity quints and PUs itself and you die from lack of damage/the extra damage your opponent can play because of its novas
cant... cause of antimatter.
inb4 the opponent quints it and it infests. I dont think singu can PU, only infest.
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: Annele on December 21, 2014, 09:53:09 pm
inb4 that singularity quints and PUs itself and you die from lack of damage/the extra damage your opponent can play because of its novas
cant... cause of antimatter.
inb4 the opponent quints it and it infests. I dont think singu can PU, only infest.

You can't anitmatter immaterial creatures
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: RootRanger on December 21, 2014, 09:55:19 pm
You can't anitmatter immaterial creatures
Well, you can't antimatter immaterial creatures.
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: CrockettRocket on December 21, 2014, 10:26:09 pm
*sighs.*

1st turn: lay amythyst pillars.
2nd turn: ???
3rd turn: lay purple nymph. 4th turn: Double supernova. Lay BE on it. Antimatter it.
4th turn: profit.

Singu cant quint itself because its antimattered, its not that you cant antimatter it because its quinted simply because antimatter comes first. The opponent would have to quint it so you can't antimatter it. Argueablly its still a decent singu because it cant get vampire to damage its owner and it has repeatable PC quinted. If the opponent has quints he probably relies on dim shields so I feel like the game at that point is a 50/50 and the winner will be based on the RNG of singu.
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: Annele on December 21, 2014, 10:42:46 pm
You do realise that singularities switch back to negative attack at the end of each turn?
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: Afdarenty on December 21, 2014, 10:49:01 pm
If Singularity has positive attack it'll antimatter itself, but that counts as the one negative effect per turn. It can't antimatter itself and quint itself on the same turn.
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: theelkspeaks on December 21, 2014, 10:55:30 pm
If Singularity has positive attack it'll antimatter itself, but that counts as the one negative effect per turn. It can't antimatter itself and quint itself on the same turn.

This interaction actually means that SoPa can deny your own Singus from hurting you - a useful tip if you accidentally make one in a SoPa deck.
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: Espithel on December 21, 2014, 11:53:32 pm
A singularity with positive attack will ALWAYS antimatter itself.
So if you keep antimattering it, turn after turn, it'll do nothing.

I've been trying to exploit this somehow, but it's been proving itself impossible.
When I refer to "the inefficient pulvy", this is the deck I'm talking about.

Maybe some SoPa would help... Hmmm.
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: CrockettRocket on December 22, 2014, 05:25:21 am
You do realise that singularities switch back to negative attack at the end of each turn?
You do realize thats the point? And that purple nymph is antimatter on a stick?
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: RulacMage11 on December 22, 2014, 08:08:21 am
Well this thread derailed quickly  :P
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: ARTHANASIOS on December 22, 2014, 10:54:57 am
Well this thread derailed quickly  :P

I completely agree with you. We should discuss that RR included 2 BEs in his deck; this thread is for BE guys, shame on you turning it into another Singularity thread! :P
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: RavingRabbid on December 22, 2014, 10:57:42 am
Well this thread derailed quickly  :P

I completely agree with you. We should discuss that RR included 2 BEs in his deck; this thread is for BE guys, shame on you turning it into another Singularity thread! :P
That's right. Who would ever use BE in his deck.
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: Annele on December 22, 2014, 09:02:01 pm
You do realise that singularities switch back to negative attack at the end of each turn?
You do realize thats the point? And that purple nymph is antimatter on a stick?

I'm sorry - I didn't realise that singularities only have one bad effect each turn. Still, it sounds like a very pointless combo just for a BE. You'd be better off using micro aboms.
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: Espithel on December 22, 2014, 11:36:11 pm
I'm sorry - I didn't realise that singularities only have one bad effect each turn. Still, it sounds like a very pointless combo just for a BE. You'd be better off using micro aboms.

That's why I call it the inefficient pulvy.


Inefficiency is so fun. Try it one day.
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: CrockettRocket on December 24, 2014, 03:36:36 am
I'm sorry - I didn't realise that singularities only have one bad effect each turn. Still, it sounds like a very pointless combo just for a BE. You'd be better off using micro aboms.

That's why I call it the inefficient pulvy.


Inefficiency is so fun. Try it one day.
They have 2 with adrenalin upped and unupped.
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: Zawadx on December 24, 2014, 03:43:13 am
I'm sorry - I didn't realise that singularities only have one bad effect each turn. Still, it sounds like a very pointless combo just for a BE. You'd be better off using micro aboms.

That's why I call it the inefficient pulvy.


Inefficiency is so fun. Try it one day.
They have 2 with adrenalin upped and unupped.

inb4 someone builds Adrenasingu :P
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: hainkarga on December 24, 2014, 05:30:45 am
What is all this commotion ? Why is this place 3 pages ? Huh ? Answer quickly.
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: CrockettRocket on December 24, 2014, 05:39:15 am
What is all this commotion ? Why is this place 3 pages ? Huh ? Answer quickly.
because many people tried explaining singularity

inb4 fractal-singularity becomes more and more viable.
Title: Re: (Fire Sld) Avenger 3 - 0 (Entropy Gen) Calindu
Post by: Zawadx on December 24, 2014, 09:02:29 am
What is all this commotion ? Why is this place 3 pages ? Huh ? Answer quickly.
because many people tried explaining singularity

inb4 fractal-singularity becomes more and more viable.

I actually once thought of a serious fractal singu deck, but singu's 10 :entropy cost makes it bad.

Zanz, buff singu pl0x
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