[19:32:32] ‹shockcannon› disconnect
[19:32:50] ‹PlayerOa› really?
[19:33:03] ‹shockcannon› yes
[19:33:11] ‹PlayerOa› I'll be honest
[19:33:22] ‹PlayerOa› There is no way you could have beaten me
[19:33:28] ‹PlayerOa› Human vs human
[19:34:07] ‹PlayerOa› won vs AI
[19:35:05] ‹shockcannon› i won
[19:35:23] ‹serprex› dc meta, where decks need to be designed for a weak AI to be able to pilot correctly
[19:35:24] ‹PlayerOa› I hate doing this.. but I kinda wanna claim that win
[19:35:42] ‹PlayerOa› and I have a string of screenies to back me up
[19:35:45] ‹shockcannon› i dont think your ai misplayed
[19:35:56] ‹moehrpi› Drama!
[19:35:59] ‹shockcannon› how many ghosts did you draw?
[19:36:08] ‹shockcannon› did you draw ghost and fractal the same turn or did you give me a chance to bolt it
[19:36:15] ‹PlayerOa› 2 sec I'll upload my screens
[19:36:40] ‹PlayerOa› had both ghost and fractal in hand from the beginning
[19:36:49] ‹moehrpi› It wasn't a desync of any kind so when disconnect happened both of you knew it was happening?
[19:36:49] ‹serprex› you never give someone a chance to bolt in this matchup
[19:37:23] ‹PlayerOa›
https://imgur.com/a/Etm5yAz[19:37:36] ‹PlayerOa› with a silence as well, followed by 2 dim shield
[19:37:47] ‹PlayerOa› you literally would need 5 bolts with 75 quanta to overpower me
[19:38:29] ‹shockcannon›
https://i.imgur.com/RnLk54V.png[19:38:45] ‹shockcannon› i drew 5 bolts
[19:38:55] ‹shockcannon› sorry i only showed with 1 bolt left
[19:39:25] ‹PlayerOa› But ytou would need more quanta to win with 5 bolts nonetheless
[19:39:33] ‹serprex› Think ghostal AI didn't have to break chain
[19:39:38] ‹serprex› But went for fractal turn too soon
[19:39:53] ‹moehrpi› 6*3 makes 18.
[19:39:57] ‹shockcannon› not with a fahrenheit hit
[19:39:57] ‹moehrpi› How did you win vs AI?
[19:40:08] ‹moehrpi› Right, AI broke chain.
[19:40:15] ‹PlayerOa› ‹@shockcannon› Then AI would let dim shield down
[19:40:20] ‹shockcannon› AIs dont break dim shield chain
[19:40:32] ‹PlayerOa› Then fahren couldn't have hit through
[19:40:47] ‹shockcannon› are you sure our draws were the same?
[19:40:47] ‹serprex› ‹@shockcannon› oa's second screenshot, AI plays fractal there
[19:40:48] ‹PlayerOa› your screen literally shows me with no dim shield
[19:40:54] ‹serprex› Following turn not enough quanta to play dim
[19:41:14] ‹moehrpi› AI did not break it by not playing Dim. It broke it by being oen turn too slow
[19:41:30] ‹MasterWalks› REEEEmatch
[19:41:32] ‹PlayerOa› I literally hate doing this but I'm 100% confident this is my win
[19:41:34] ‹shockcannon› if playeroa kept chaining then I would've had enough time to bolt
[19:41:47] ‹shockcannon› that would've delayed his fractal at least 2 more turns
[19:41:54] ‹shockcannon› I had 5 bolt in hand
[19:42:01] ‹shockcannon› I only needed to hit 60 fire quanta then
[19:42:02] ‹shockcannon› which I did
[19:42:15] ‹shockcannon› I also would've had more draws in his scenario
[19:42:22] ‹PlayerOa› well, screenie says 54...
[19:42:22] ‹shockcannon› i could've gotten SoBra or another firebolt
[19:42:33] ‹shockcannon› yeah because I had less turns
[19:43:17] ‹serprex› in oa's screenshot you've drawn fewer cards than in your own
[19:43:26] ‹PlayerOa› please keep silence in mind as well
[19:43:31] ‹shockcannon› his screenshot happened when the DC occurued
[19:43:36] ‹shockcannon› he hasn't even posted a winning screenshot
[19:43:38] ‹PlayerOa› I would easily have silenced you if I ever would get in bolt range
[19:43:46] ‹moehrpi› Oa wins with shock having 12 cards left. shock wins with his 12th to last carddrawn.
[19:43:49] ‹shockcannon› okay
[19:43:51] ‹shockcannon› then you silence me
[19:43:52] ‹shockcannon› then you fractal
[19:43:55] ‹shockcannon› then If i can't win
[19:43:58] ‹shockcannon› i bolt all your creatures
[19:44:02] ‹serprex› Wish Oa had screenshot of when he had 16 cards left
[19:44:05] ‹shockcannon› and my fahrenheit gets to hit for several more turns
[19:44:08] ‹moehrpi› OK, SoBra was in play, my point is moot.
[19:44:24] ‹PlayerOa› ‹@serprex› That wass when I drew the first dim
[19:44:28] ‹Afdarenty› Looks like the AI used Fractal with a fuller hand than OA did, lead to a slower speed
[19:45:26] ‹moehrpi› ‹@serprex› The second screenshot should be with 16 cards left.
[19:45:28] ‹shockcannon› either you fractal early and I win
[19:45:32] ‹shockcannon› or you wait several turns longer
[19:45:32] ‹serprex› ‹@iancudorinmarian› take look at screenshots too?
[19:45:34] ‹shockcannon› and I still win
[19:45:46] ‹moehrpi› The counter should drop as soon as he finished drawing his card.
[19:46:12] ‹PlayerOa› Well, you could wish for more screenies from me, doesn't change the fact I have 5x as many as shock
[19:46:21] ‹shockcannon› if you kept dim chaining I woul'dve been able to bolt you before you could fractal and silence chain
[19:46:29] ‹PlayerOa› which don't show AI's play on my end at all
[19:46:40] ‹shockcannon› if you silenced early without combo, then I would've won with fahrenheit
[19:46:46] ‹shockcannon› and I could've bolted creatures
[19:46:58] ‹shockcannon› I have a screenshot of me winning
[19:47:00] ‹shockcannon› which is all I need
[19:47:03] ‹Afdarenty› With the BB, using the Fractal later with an emptier hand was faster, not slower
[19:47:09] ‹shockcannon› YOu don't have the screenshots to prove a 100% victory
[19:47:10] ‹moehrpi› ‹@shockcannon› I am pretty sure AI bolts you down when it can kill you.
[19:47:29] ‹PlayerOa› I always kept chain up, and Fractaled thereafter, you never hit 60 fire quanta which is required to kill me with 5 bolts
[19:47:32] ‹serprex› ‹@shockcannon› what's your take on AI's misplay in Oa's screenshot?
[19:47:38] ‹PlayerOa› That's all I have to say, I'll leave it to WMs then
[19:47:53] ‹PlayerOa› but I see no way of me losing this human vs human
[19:48:05] ‹shockcannon› I never hit 60 quanta in my game because I didn't need to
[19:48:13] ‹shockcannon› I also used a bolt early to kill a creature to slow down damage
[19:48:19] ‹shockcannon› and I won with the 4 other bolts
[19:48:49] ‹shockcannon› You're assuming my AI didn't misplay in your game
[19:49:08] ‹PlayerOa› ‹@shockcannon› How did your AI misplay in my game, then?
[19:49:23] ‹PlayerOa› Yes, they threw some early bolts at face
[19:49:27] ‹moehrpi› ‹@shockcannon› You said you didn't need to gather 60 Fire Quanta in your game, still you were faster than AI on Oa's end. Doesn't this show that the fault is entirely on Oa's AI/
[19:49:31] ‹PlayerOa› But you wouldn't have reached enough quanta anyway
[19:49:33] ‹shockcannon› well there you go
[19:50:17] ‹shockcannon› you're saying I wouldn't have had enough quanta to bolt
[19:50:23] ‹shockcannon› but if you dim shield chained the entire time instead of dropping it
[19:50:27] ‹serprex› Oa's point is that your AI's bolt timing misplay can be accounted for without impacting result
[19:50:27] ‹shockcannon› then I easily would've hit the quanta
[19:50:35] ‹shockcannon› it can't though
[19:51:03] ‹moehrpi› How do you gather quanta more slowly with chain up?
[19:51:22] ‹serprex› ‹@moehrpi› fractal timing
[19:51:40] ‹moehrpi› Sorry, I meant shock's quanta.
[19:51:59] ‹moehrpi› As in a rhethorical question.
[19:52:01] ‹serprex› ‹@shockcannon› what's your play in Oa's 4th screenshot?
[19:52:05] ‹shockcannon› I needed to hi 60 quanta to win if Oa nevrer dropped shield
[19:52:16] ‹shockcannon› I almost hit that in my game which apparently was faster
[19:52:22] ‹shockcannon› all I needed would've been one more turn
[19:52:33] ‹shockcannon› and if oa had to waste turns playing dim shields and not fractal I would've hit that
[19:52:40] ‹shockcannon› my AI definitely wasted bolts early
[19:52:44] ‹shockcannon› which not only minimized damage
[19:52:47] ‹shockcannon› but also used up fire quanta
[19:53:05] ‹shockcannon› so my AI may have appeared to miss the necessary quanta, but from what I saw in my game, I definitely would've hit it
[19:53:19] ‹moehrpi› But in Oa's game he brought down your AI's health faster while keeping chain up.
[19:53:45] ‹shockcannon› yeah
[19:53:48] ‹shockcannon› because my AI misplayed
[19:54:04] ‹shockcannon› I also didn't need to bolt to win
[19:54:05] ‹moehrpi› Is there another way to use up Fire quanta that I am missing here?
[19:54:09] ‹shockcannon› I can bolt creatures and stall
[19:54:30] ‹serprex› ‹@moehrpi› no, just 1 quanta fire lances
[19:56:03] ‹Afdarenty› If shock bolts all creatures on that last turn can he win in time if Oa draws no more dims?
[19:56:09] ‹moehrpi› My frame of reference is Oa's side of the game where he keeps chain up and beats shock down.
[19:56:19] ‹PlayerOa› ‹@Afdarenty› I drew two consecutively
[19:56:29] ‹serprex› ‹@shockcannon› ‹@PlayerOa› so I'm going to have to get ian's opinion here. In the meantime please play out the match assuming we side with shock for null result
[19:56:33] ‹moehrpi› AI obviously used 2 bolts, has 2 in hand and about to draw into the necessary fifth bolt to win.
[19:56:52] ‹iancudorinmarian› Oh no
[19:56:52] ‹PlayerOa› ok
[19:56:54] ‹moehrpi› Just that it is too slow and somehow has fewer quanta than in shocks game.
[19:56:57] ‹PlayerOa› oh there he is
[19:57:21] ‹Afdarenty› ‹@PlayerOa› From the last screenshot, I mean
[19:57:25] ‹serprex› ‹@iancudorinmarian› screenshots are about half an hour ago
[19:57:44] ‹serprex› ‹@moehrpi› going to have to ask you to sit out on this discussion please
[19:58:24] ‹Afdarenty› With 5 bolts that means no more ghosts. 2 Ghosts coming out of BB in 5 turns, vs Fahren against 4 turns of Dim Shields. Even if shock draws the last bolt and Oa draws nothing I think he might win that
[19:58:33] ‹Afdarenty› But I don't know. I guess not, with more BB
[19:58:44] ‹iancudorinmarian› Oh no, I should've just pretended I was afk
[19:59:15] ‹shockcannon› alright just give them the win
[19:59:25] ‹shockcannon› I don't want people to be able to use excuses when we win war
[19:59:39] ‹shockcannon› we'll just eliminate time one round later
[19:59:40] ‹shockcannon› not a big deal
[19:59:51] ‹shockcannon› i'm heading out. gg
