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Re: (Fire Gen.) shockcannon 3-0 Odii Odsen (Life Lt.) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66890.msg1285814#msg1285814
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2019, 04:17:15 pm »
RIP Life, too bad you couldn't repeat War 11.

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Re: (Fire Gen.) shockcannon 3-0 Odii Odsen (Life Lt.) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66890.msg1285833#msg1285833
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2019, 07:04:57 pm »
The fact that literally everyone (except ARTH lol) put me bottom 4 is insulting, but I feed off the doubt. The  :fire is spreading quickly. Y'all better watch out, otherwise you'll also be consumed in the inferno.
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Re: (Fire Gen.) shockcannon 3-0 Odii Odsen (Life Lt.) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66890.msg1285840#msg1285840
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2019, 08:53:36 pm »
The fact that literally everyone (except ARTH lol) put me bottom 4 is insulting, but I feed off the doubt. The  :fire is spreading quickly. Y'all better watch out, otherwise you'll also be consumed in the inferno.

I don't see this as insulting, it is more or less anyone who is not biased would expect. This is a combination of multiple factors:
  • Since the introduction of shards, fire is doing worse. The last good result(top half) fire got was in War #9, where shards were allowed for the first time. Since then, almost every element managed to build new, good decks with them. Fire didn't really find new decks this way, SoP doesn't really work in fire, SoV isn't really better than Fahren + Bolts, SoFr is expensive and needs a huge amount of upgrades to work in fire. The list could go on, there is almost nothing new that fire can do with shards.
  • You are a new and unproven general. First time generals are usually doing worse, especially those with no war experience. Vault building is hard and tedious, choosing your team is hard if you don't know how everyone works, you don't have experience in building multiple decks in a round and testing against various opponents restrictions.
  • New war generals usually try to deviate from what has been done by the previous teams. While it is always good to innovate and improve on the past, if you are not careful you can end up with a subpar vault that is either missing key decks(the likes of firestall, grabbows for fire), or a vault that doesn't have backups for critical cards.
I hope this helps you understand why the expectations set are so low. After all, it is your job to set the expectations higher for next war.
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Re: (Fire Gen.) shockcannon 3-0 Odii Odsen (Life Lt.) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66890.msg1285849#msg1285849
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2019, 10:34:17 pm »
The fact that literally everyone (except ARTH lol) put me bottom 4 is insulting, but I feed off the doubt. The  :fire is spreading quickly. Y'all better watch out, otherwise you'll also be consumed in the inferno.

I don't wanna hear it. EVERYONE expected :light to get knocked out by now, and we HAVE an experienced general.

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Re: (Fire Gen.) shockcannon 3-0 Odii Odsen (Life Lt.) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66890.msg1285850#msg1285850
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2019, 10:37:01 pm »
The fact that literally everyone (except ARTH lol) put me bottom 4 is insulting, but I feed off the doubt. The  :fire is spreading quickly. Y'all better watch out, otherwise you'll also be consumed in the inferno.

I don't wanna hear it. EVERYONE expected :light to get knocked out by now, and we HAVE an experienced general.

I think that only meant that :light is considered a weak element.
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Re: (Fire Gen.) shockcannon 3-0 Odii Odsen (Life Lt.) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66890.msg1285852#msg1285852
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2019, 10:41:58 pm »
The fact that literally everyone (except ARTH lol) put me bottom 4 is insulting, but I feed off the doubt. The  :fire is spreading quickly. Y'all better watch out, otherwise you'll also be consumed in the inferno.

I don't wanna hear it. EVERYONE expected :light to get knocked out by now, and we HAVE an experienced general.

I think that only meant that :light is considered a weak element.

Nah, not weak, just under-utilized. We have so much more potential than just stall! I think we're making a decent showing in this war.

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Re: (Fire Gen.) shockcannon 3-0 Odii Odsen (Life Lt.) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66890.msg1285853#msg1285853
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2019, 10:48:45 pm »
The fact that literally everyone (except ARTH lol) put me bottom 4 is insulting, but I feed off the doubt. The  :fire is spreading quickly. Y'all better watch out, otherwise you'll also be consumed in the inferno.

I don't wanna hear it. EVERYONE expected :light to get knocked out by now, and we HAVE an experienced general.

I think that only meant that :light is considered a weak element.

Nah, not weak, just under-utilized. We have so much more potential than just stall! I think we're making a decent showing in this war.

I agree, you are doing well, and I like it! Notice, that I wrote "considered". :)
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Re: (Fire Gen.) shockcannon 3-0 Odii Odsen (Life Lt.) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66890.msg1285854#msg1285854
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2019, 11:01:56 pm »
Light is the worst element.

Change my mind.

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Re: (Fire Gen.) shockcannon 3-0 Odii Odsen (Life Lt.) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66890.msg1285855#msg1285855
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2019, 11:04:34 pm »
Light is the worst element.

Change my mind.

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Re: (Fire Gen.) shockcannon 3-0 Odii Odsen (Life Lt.) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66890.msg1285857#msg1285857
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2019, 11:07:24 pm »
Light is the worst element.

Change my mind.

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Re: (Fire Gen.) shockcannon 3-0 Odii Odsen (Life Lt.) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66890.msg1285860#msg1285860
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2019, 11:12:34 pm »
Light is the worst element.

Change my mind.

:gravity and :life died first.
Steven Hawking died first, but that doesn't make me smarter than him.

Nope, just makes you still alive!  This isn't a question of intelligence, but rather martial superiority. Seeing as that we now have 2 deceased teams, it goes to show that :light is not, in fact, the worst element. :gravity owns that title this year.

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Re: (Fire Gen.) shockcannon 3-0 Odii Odsen (Life Lt.) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66890.msg1285861#msg1285861
« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2019, 12:00:26 am »
Nope, just makes you still alive!  This isn't a question of intelligence, but rather martial superiority. Seeing as that we now have 2 deceased teams, it goes to show that :light is not, in fact, the worst element. :gravity owns that title this year.

It's not really the element. It's mainly how our team performed this war.
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