(Entropy) Sir Valimont 2 - 0 Klaymore (Air)

[Memorystick]

Ok so more testing was performed, with constant updates going back and forth, and there where discrepancies in the hp both times. The problem basically occurred every time I got creatures on the board versus gravity pulled doll. We had a game where it showed a win for my opponent but where I got fairly low and recovered, just like what happened in the contested game between klaymore and sir valimont.

As for what to do, I don't think it's really a fair solution to just keep replaying games until the desyncs don't occur, because there will occasionally be games where we can't get creatures to the board at all and those won't suffer any desyncs. I feel the match is basically unplayable.

I'd like to add that the voodoo bug, the one where the passive is reflected, occured on quantum's side in our first test. I BB'd his queen and my discord ended up being delayed as well. In order for pretty much any match using dolls to work right, voodoo needs to be fixed, and until then, they shouldn't be used. Unfortunately, this might end up causing some teams to take a harder hit than others, but it's better than having a repeat of this, IMO.

[Sir Valimont]

I'd like to add that the voodoo bug, the one where the passive is reflected, occured on quantum's side in our first test. I BB'd his queen and my discord ended up being delayed as well. In order for pretty much any match using dolls to work right, voodoo needs to be fixed, and until then, they shouldn't be used. Unfortunately, this might end up causing some teams to take a harder hit than others, but it's better than having a repeat of this, IMO.

Well crap. If this is really the case, I suggest we call this match a draw and every team in War be allowed to convert all their Voodoo Dolls into pillars. I feel I won the match fairly but if there is an error in the system it is fine with me to not have the victory. I don't think anyone will mind if Air keeps their 30 cards also.

Does anyone disagree with this proposed solution?

[vagman13]

get in the chat Vali,the ruling of SG said rematch untill no desyncs happen.OR if desyncs keep happen,a super round where the person with the most HP at the time of desync,wins.

[QuantumT]

For the record, that solution is incredibly biased towards team entropy, and I vehemently object.

[Sir Valimont]

For the record, that solution is incredibly biased towards team entropy, and I vehemently object.

Er ... how is it biased?

[QuantumT]

For the record, that solution is incredibly biased towards team entropy, and I vehemently object.

Er ... how is it biased?

Note: I mean vagman's solution, not yours. I think your solution is the best one available.

Forcing the match is unfair because playing the doll basically means we lose, since the dolls basically force desync. So we'd just keep playing until you managed to quanta screw us with discord and earthquake and we lost.

Basing in on hp is also unfair, because our deck is designed to take damage at the beginning and recover it later with bonds, so we'll basically always be at lower hp when the desync occurs.

Basically it just says the entropy autowins.

[xdude]

I'd like to add that the voodoo bug, the one where the passive is reflected, occured on quantum's side in our first test. I BB'd his queen and my discord ended up being delayed as well. In order for pretty much any match using dolls to work right, voodoo needs to be fixed, and until then, they shouldn't be used. Unfortunately, this might end up causing some teams to take a harder hit than others, but it's better than having a repeat of this, IMO.

Well crap. If this is really the case, I suggest we call this match a draw and every team in War be allowed to convert all their Voodoo Dolls into pillars. I feel I won the match fairly but if there is an error in the system it is fine with me to not have the victory. I don't think anyone will mind if Air keeps their 30 cards also.

Does anyone disagree with this proposed solution?

Yes, I obviously disagree with you 2 getting a free bye.

[jmdt]

Ok so more testing was performed, with constant updates going back and forth, and there where discrepancies in the hp both times. The problem basically occurred every time I got creatures on the board versus gravity pulled doll. We had a game where it showed a win for my opponent but where I got fairly low and recovered, just like what happened in the contested game between klaymore and sir valimont.

As for what to do, I don't think it's really a fair solution to just keep replaying games until the desyncs don't occur, because there will occasionally be games where we can't get creatures to the board at all and those won't suffer any desyncs. I feel the match is basically unplayable.

I'd like to add that the voodoo bug, the one where the passive is reflected, occured on quantum's side in our first test. I BB'd his queen and my discord ended up being delayed as well. In order for pretty much any match using dolls to work right, voodoo needs to be fixed, and until then, they shouldn't be used. Unfortunately, this might end up causing some teams to take a harder hit than others, but it's better than having a repeat of this, IMO.

Yeah I experimented with voodoo doll in PvP and they have some very strange bugs from time to time and I have also had desync issues with them.  Sad that such bugs affect a war match this much.  I had desync issues in my first mnatch versus voodoo doll which potentally coused me to lose with winning hands.

[QuantumT]

I'd like to add that the voodoo bug, the one where the passive is reflected, occured on quantum's side in our first test. I BB'd his queen and my discord ended up being delayed as well. In order for pretty much any match using dolls to work right, voodoo needs to be fixed, and until then, they shouldn't be used. Unfortunately, this might end up causing some teams to take a harder hit than others, but it's better than having a repeat of this, IMO.

Well crap. If this is really the case, I suggest we call this match a draw and every team in War be allowed to convert all their Voodoo Dolls into pillars. I feel I won the match fairly but if there is an error in the system it is fine with me to not have the victory. I don't think anyone will mind if Air keeps their 30 cards also.

Does anyone disagree with this proposed solution?

Yes, I obviously disagree with you 2 getting a free bye.

And you propose what as a better solution. Air auto loses?

What if I were to tell you that you randomly had to discard your best deck? How would you feel?

[Acsabi44]

seriously, guys. Toss a coin.

[xdude]

I'd like to add that the voodoo bug, the one where the passive is reflected, occured on quantum's side in our first test. I BB'd his queen and my discord ended up being delayed as well. In order for pretty much any match using dolls to work right, voodoo needs to be fixed, and until then, they shouldn't be used. Unfortunately, this might end up causing some teams to take a harder hit than others, but it's better than having a repeat of this, IMO.

Well crap. If this is really the case, I suggest we call this match a draw and every team in War be allowed to convert all their Voodoo Dolls into pillars. I feel I won the match fairly but if there is an error in the system it is fine with me to not have the victory. I don't think anyone will mind if Air keeps their 30 cards also.

Does anyone disagree with this proposed solution?

Yes, I obviously disagree with you 2 getting a free bye.

And you propose what as a better solution. Air auto loses?

What if I were to tell you that you randomly had to discard your best deck? How would you feel?

What if I were to tell you that everybody else randomly gets a bye?

[vagman13]

GAME HAPPENED:

I subbed for SIrVAlimont,Quantum Subed for klaymore.Game won for entropy as ruled by ScaredGirl and admited by Pervepic.