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Re: kevkev60614 (Fire) - nilsieboy (Water) *forfeit https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16020.msg205201#msg205201
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2010, 02:45:18 pm »
I fail to see how fire's small window of time available to play supersedes water's small window to play, especially since fire refuses to sub.

Seems like fire's the team preventing this fight from happening.

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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2010, 03:04:52 pm »
Team :water has been waiting in chat for hours for a member of team :fire. There no longer seems to be a valid reason for team :fire to gain the win, and therefore the match will go ahead if possible.
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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2010, 03:15:18 pm »
i can fight for hours now so yes please
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Re: kevkev60614 (Fire) - nilsieboy (Water) *forfeit https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16020.msg205235#msg205235
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2010, 03:27:53 pm »
So both of you are online and yet you're arguing the result and not fighting? -.-
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Re: kevkev60614 (Fire) - nilsieboy (Water) *forfeit https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16020.msg205238#msg205238
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2010, 03:32:24 pm »
Quote from: Gl1tch link=topic=16020.msg218885#msg218885t date=1290264318
I fail to see how fire's small window of time available to play supersedes water's small window to play, especially since fire refuses to sub.

Seems like fire's the team preventing this fight from happening.
At this point the size of our windows isn't really relevant, but for the record I was available for 8 hours a weekday, whereas nils was available for only 3-6.  As has been noted, the latest I was able to play was at the start of the Eastern tourney.

I say its not really relevant cuz our windows DID overlap in exactly one place.  Glitch, I'd be careful with your accusations.  I went out of my way to make this match happen.  I made first contact, found nils in chat when he didnt reply via PM, and I myself got three hours sleep last night.

To be honest I didn't expect this much discussion.  I kinda thought nils would pop in to say sorry he missed the scheduled time.  If it'll help, here are copies of my communications with nils:

I'm available Wed 2300-Thurs 700, Thurs 2300-Fri 700, Fri 2300-Sat 700.

Does any of that work for you?  If not, please reply with the exact range of times you're available.

Thanks,
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Quote from: from chat
[01:48:55 PM] kevkev60614: nils, have you had an opportunity to check your PMs?
[01:49:03 PM] nilsieboy: just doing it
[01:49:12 PM] nilsieboy: are your times GMT there?
[01:49:20 PM] nilsieboy: because i'm at school then...
[01:50:00 PM] kevkev60614: yes, they're GMT. none of that works for you?
[01:50:05 PM] nilsieboy: or it's to late
[01:50:49 PM] nilsieboy: but that times are to late/early for me i'm srry....
[01:51:13 PM] Stoba: What time zone are you in, Nilsie?
[01:51:35 PM] kevkev60614: ok, please let me know the exact range of times you're available. i'll see what can be worked out.
[01:51:40 PM] nilsieboy: GMT +1
[01:52:05 PM] nilsieboy: today/tommorow from 18:00 to 21:00 GMT
[01:52:13 PM] nilsieboy: i have test week so need to rest good...
[01:52:27 PM] nilsieboy: friday from 16:00 to 22 GMT
[01:52:47 PM] nilsieboy: saturday from eastern tourney time to 22:00
[01:53:57 PM] nilsieboy: you/
[01:54:29 PM] kevkev60614: Eastern is the earlier tournament. you can play at 500 GMT on Sat?
[01:55:16 PM] nilsieboy: then eastern starts...
[01:55:29 PM] nilsieboy: can you play after it? (i really wanna play in it because i love the rules)
[01:56:02 PM] kevkev60614: i can't play after it. how about before it?
[01:56:26 PM] nilsieboy: eastern is already really early...
[01:56:36 PM] nilsieboy: first rounds i'm really tired/half death
[01:58:24 PM] kevkev60614: ok, well we've ruled out weekdays, after the Eastern tourney, and before the Eastern tourney...
[01:59:07 PM] nilsieboy: well i can play at almost every time between western and esatern
[01:59:11 PM] nilsieboy: *eastern
[01:59:54 PM] kevkev60614: if you can't think of an alternative, we'll have to play during the tourney. :/ i don't want it then either, but it looks like the only possibility remaining.
[02:00:29 PM] nilsieboy: eastern or western?
[02:00:36 PM] kevkev60614: Eastern
[02:00:37 PM] nilsieboy: (you can't play any time between tourneys?)
[02:01:13 PM] kevkev60614: no, i'm sorry. i leave 5 hours after Eastern start and drive for 14 hours. :/
[02:01:25 PM] nilsieboy: 
[02:01:33 PM] nilsieboy: 5 hours after eastern?
[02:01:41 PM] nilsieboy: then you can play after?
[02:01:58 PM] kevkev60614: no, i'm sorry. i leave 5 hours after Eastern start and drive for 14 hours. :/
[02:02:51 PM] kevkev60614: if you wanna wake up and play before the tourney, i'd be down with that. otherwise it looks like Eastern tourney time is the only time we can meet up. any other ideas?
[02:03:37 PM] nilsieboy: kev,the tourney is already REALLY early
[02:03:48 PM] nilsieboy: 6:00 and i have to tennis that day to
[02:03:58 PM] nilsieboy: quarter finals so i need good rest...
[02:05:07 PM] kevkev60614: ok. then Eastern tourney time is our only option.
[02:05:25 PM] nilsieboy: yea
[02:06:12 PM] kevkev60614: sorry, nils. i know you want to play in the tourney. if you become available any time that i am, lemme know and I'll adjust my schedule.
[02:08:02 PM] nilsieboy: chat freeze :S
[02:08:10 PM] nilsieboy: but can't you play earlier on friday?
[02:08:14 PM] nilsieboy: i can play from 17:00 GMT to 22:30 GMT then
[02:09:51 PM] kevkev60614: that's exactly when i work. earliest i could possibly start a game is 23:15.
[02:11:02 PM] nilsieboy: multiple chat freezes :S
[02:11:07 PM] nilsieboy: but can you play then earlier kev?
[02:12:43 PM] nilsieboy: well i'm scared and screwed this round
[02:14:10 PM] kevkev60614: i'm doing my part to make your death as convenient as possible, nils.
[02:14:39 PM] kevkev60614: i should assume from your lack of response that 23:15 on Fri doesn't work, and we're still on for Eastern Tourney start?
[02:17:55 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: are you thinking about it?
[02:18:07 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: srry had telephone..
[02:18:09 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: what?
[02:18:10 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: np
[02:18:32 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: i should assume from your lack of response that 23:15 on Fri doesn't work, and we're still on for Eastern Tourney start?
[02:18:59 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: 23:15 gmt or my timezone?
[02:19:09 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: gmt
[02:19:19 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: 45 mins after the range you gave.
[02:19:25 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: that's later then midnight for me
[02:19:31 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: that's the absolute earliest i can start. :/
[02:19:35 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: :S
[02:19:41 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: i can try to become for eastern
[02:19:48 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: otherwise we have to fight between the matches
[02:20:01 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: we CAN'T fight between the matches.
[02:20:49 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: if you kill your opponent fast you can =P
[02:20:56 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: let me spell it out: Eastern is at 11pm my time. if it takes 2 hours, it's 1am. i leave at 3am and need more than 2 hrs sleep
[02:21:16 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: i'm not playing in Eastern. and it doesn't look like you are either, unfortunately.
[02:21:48 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: unless you find another time or you're willing to sub, I'll look for you at Eastern Tourney start.
[02:22:11 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: well i'm even not sure if i can play in it
[02:22:22 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: and i have a lot of time to...
[02:22:57 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: i don't understand what you just said.
[02:24:01 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: well your timezone and mine is a problem
[02:24:09 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: and you say i have to sub when we have the smallest vault of all...
[02:24:13 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: that's sad dude...
[02:24:37 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: nils, it's not that difficult. i gave the times i'm available, you gave the times you're available. we overlap in exactly one
[02:24:47 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: spot. so we're playing at Eastern Tourney start.
[02:25:24 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: yea but i just hope i can make it
[02:25:58 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: why wouldn't you be able to make it?
[02:26:31 PM] nilsieboy [»] nilsieboy: going that night to movie with friends
[02:26:38 PM] nilsieboy [»] nilsieboy: really early time for me
[02:28:19 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: late movie and really early
[02:28:26 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: nils, at the very beginning of this conversation you said you were available "saturday from eastern tourney time to 22:00"
[02:31:05 PM] kevkev60614 [»] kevkev60614: it's not convenient for either of us, but as it's the only possibility for both of us I'm going to arrange my schedule around
[02:31:10 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: meeting you at that time. ok?
[02:31:13 PM] nilsieboy: chat freeze again
[02:31:20 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: it's not convenient for either of us, but as it's the only possibility for both of us I'm going to arrange my schedule around
[02:31:24 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: meeting you at that time. ok?
[02:31:27 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: yea i thaught after (because i see you a lot in tourneys to)
[02:31:32 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: but i'll gues i have to now...
[02:31:49 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: a sub will kill the team
[02:31:59 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: so gues i'll have to change things -,-"
[02:32:26 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: sorry, bro. if you find another time that works for both of us, lemme know and I'll rearrange my schedule.
[02:32:34 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: best of luck to you.

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Re: kevkev60614 (Fire) - nilsieboy (Water) *forfeit https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16020.msg205243#msg205243
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2010, 03:34:27 pm »
Quote from: Gl1tch link=topic=16020.msg218885#msg218885t date=1290264318
I fail to see how fire's small window of time available to play supersedes water's small window to play, especially since fire refuses to sub.

Seems like fire's the team preventing this fight from happening.
At this point the size of our windows isn't really relevant, but for the record I was available for 8 hours a weekday, whereas nils was available for only 3-6.  As has been noted, the latest I was able to play was at the start of the Eastern tourney.

I say its not really relevant cuz our windows DID overlap in exactly one place.  Glitch, I'd be careful with your accusations.  I went out of my way to make this match happen.  I made first contact, found nils in chat when he didnt reply via PM, and I myself got three hours sleep last night.

To be honest I didn't expect this much discussion.  I kinda thought nils would pop in to say sorry he missed the scheduled time.  If it'll help, here are copies of my communications with nils:

I'm available Wed 2300-Thurs 700, Thurs 2300-Fri 700, Fri 2300-Sat 700.

Does any of that work for you?  If not, please reply with the exact range of times you're available.

Thanks,
kev
Quote from: from chat
[01:48:55 PM] kevkev60614: nils, have you had an opportunity to check your PMs?
[01:49:03 PM] nilsieboy: just doing it
[01:49:12 PM] nilsieboy: are your times GMT there?
[01:49:20 PM] nilsieboy: because i'm at school then...
[01:50:00 PM] kevkev60614: yes, they're GMT. none of that works for you?
[01:50:05 PM] nilsieboy: or it's to late
[01:50:49 PM] nilsieboy: but that times are to late/early for me i'm srry....
[01:51:13 PM] Stoba: What time zone are you in, Nilsie?
[01:51:35 PM] kevkev60614: ok, please let me know the exact range of times you're available. i'll see what can be worked out.
[01:51:40 PM] nilsieboy: GMT +1
[01:52:05 PM] nilsieboy: today/tommorow from 18:00 to 21:00 GMT
[01:52:13 PM] nilsieboy: i have test week so need to rest good...
[01:52:27 PM] nilsieboy: friday from 16:00 to 22 GMT
[01:52:47 PM] nilsieboy: saturday from eastern tourney time to 22:00
[01:53:57 PM] nilsieboy: you/
[01:54:29 PM] kevkev60614: Eastern is the earlier tournament. you can play at 500 GMT on Sat?
[01:55:16 PM] nilsieboy: then eastern starts...
[01:55:29 PM] nilsieboy: can you play after it? (i really wanna play in it because i love the rules)
[01:56:02 PM] kevkev60614: i can't play after it. how about before it?
[01:56:26 PM] nilsieboy: eastern is already really early...
[01:56:36 PM] nilsieboy: first rounds i'm really tired/half death
[01:58:24 PM] kevkev60614: ok, well we've ruled out weekdays, after the Eastern tourney, and before the Eastern tourney...
[01:59:07 PM] nilsieboy: well i can play at almost every time between western and esatern
[01:59:11 PM] nilsieboy: *eastern
[01:59:54 PM] kevkev60614: if you can't think of an alternative, we'll have to play during the tourney. :/ i don't want it then either, but it looks like the only possibility remaining.
[02:00:29 PM] nilsieboy: eastern or western?
[02:00:36 PM] kevkev60614: Eastern
[02:00:37 PM] nilsieboy: (you can't play any time between tourneys?)
[02:01:13 PM] kevkev60614: no, i'm sorry. i leave 5 hours after Eastern start and drive for 14 hours. :/
[02:01:25 PM] nilsieboy: 
[02:01:33 PM] nilsieboy: 5 hours after eastern?
[02:01:41 PM] nilsieboy: then you can play after?
[02:01:58 PM] kevkev60614: no, i'm sorry. i leave 5 hours after Eastern start and drive for 14 hours. :/
[02:02:51 PM] kevkev60614: if you wanna wake up and play before the tourney, i'd be down with that. otherwise it looks like Eastern tourney time is the only time we can meet up. any other ideas?
[02:03:37 PM] nilsieboy: kev,the tourney is already REALLY early
[02:03:48 PM] nilsieboy: 6:00 and i have to tennis that day to
[02:03:58 PM] nilsieboy: quarter finals so i need good rest...
[02:05:07 PM] kevkev60614: ok. then Eastern tourney time is our only option.
[02:05:25 PM] nilsieboy: yea
[02:06:12 PM] kevkev60614: sorry, nils. i know you want to play in the tourney. if you become available any time that i am, lemme know and I'll adjust my schedule.
[02:08:02 PM] nilsieboy: chat freeze :S
[02:08:10 PM] nilsieboy: but can't you play earlier on friday?
[02:08:14 PM] nilsieboy: i can play from 17:00 GMT to 22:30 GMT then
[02:09:51 PM] kevkev60614: that's exactly when i work. earliest i could possibly start a game is 23:15.
[02:11:02 PM] nilsieboy: multiple chat freezes :S
[02:11:07 PM] nilsieboy: but can you play then earlier kev?
[02:12:43 PM] nilsieboy: well i'm scared and screwed this round
[02:14:10 PM] kevkev60614: i'm doing my part to make your death as convenient as possible, nils.
[02:14:39 PM] kevkev60614: i should assume from your lack of response that 23:15 on Fri doesn't work, and we're still on for Eastern Tourney start?
[02:17:55 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: are you thinking about it?
[02:18:07 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: srry had telephone..
[02:18:09 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: what?
[02:18:10 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: np
[02:18:32 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: i should assume from your lack of response that 23:15 on Fri doesn't work, and we're still on for Eastern Tourney start?
[02:18:59 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: 23:15 gmt or my timezone?
[02:19:09 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: gmt
[02:19:19 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: 45 mins after the range you gave.
[02:19:25 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: that's later then midnight for me
[02:19:31 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: that's the absolute earliest i can start. :/
[02:19:35 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: :S
[02:19:41 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: i can try to become for eastern
[02:19:48 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: otherwise we have to fight between the matches
[02:20:01 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: we CAN'T fight between the matches.
[02:20:49 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: if you kill your opponent fast you can =P
[02:20:56 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: let me spell it out: Eastern is at 11pm my time. if it takes 2 hours, it's 1am. i leave at 3am and need more than 2 hrs sleep
[02:21:16 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: i'm not playing in Eastern. and it doesn't look like you are either, unfortunately.
[02:21:48 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: unless you find another time or you're willing to sub, I'll look for you at Eastern Tourney start.
[02:22:11 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: well i'm even not sure if i can play in it
[02:22:22 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: and i have a lot of time to...
[02:22:57 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: i don't understand what you just said.
[02:24:01 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: well your timezone and mine is a problem
[02:24:09 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: and you say i have to sub when we have the smallest vault of all...
[02:24:13 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: that's sad dude...
[02:24:37 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: nils, it's not that difficult. i gave the times i'm available, you gave the times you're available. we overlap in exactly one
[02:24:47 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: spot. so we're playing at Eastern Tourney start.
[02:25:24 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: yea but i just hope i can make it
[02:25:58 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: why wouldn't you be able to make it?
[02:26:31 PM] nilsieboy [»] nilsieboy: going that night to movie with friends
[02:26:38 PM] nilsieboy [»] nilsieboy: really early time for me
[02:28:19 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: late movie and really early
[02:28:26 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: nils, at the very beginning of this conversation you said you were available "saturday from eastern tourney time to 22:00"
[02:31:05 PM] kevkev60614 [»] kevkev60614: it's not convenient for either of us, but as it's the only possibility for both of us I'm going to arrange my schedule around
[02:31:10 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: meeting you at that time. ok?
[02:31:13 PM] nilsieboy: chat freeze again
[02:31:20 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: it's not convenient for either of us, but as it's the only possibility for both of us I'm going to arrange my schedule around
[02:31:24 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: meeting you at that time. ok?
[02:31:27 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: yea i thaught after (because i see you a lot in tourneys to)
[02:31:32 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: but i'll gues i have to now...
[02:31:49 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: a sub will kill the team
[02:31:59 PM] nilsieboy [»] kevkev60614: so gues i'll have to change things -,-"
[02:32:26 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: sorry, bro. if you find another time that works for both of us, lemme know and I'll rearrange my schedule.
[02:32:34 PM] kevkev60614 [»] nilsieboy: best of luck to you.
and you said you had to change stuff :o.
i slept only 2 hours for our battle >:(.
i've been here for more then 8 hours and i'm still waiting.
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Re: kevkev60614 (Fire) - nilsieboy (Water) *forfeit https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16020.msg205255#msg205255
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2010, 03:42:52 pm »
Team :water has been waiting in chat for hours for a member of team :fire. There no longer seems to be a valid reason for team :fire to gain the win, and therefore the match will go ahead if possible.
As I've mentioned, I'm in a car right now.  I have access to forums but not chat or game.

DD, last night I offered to have a teammate sub so long as we can use six upped cards and get full salvage.  You elected to give me the win instead.  Why the change of heart?  If you're comfortable with that subbing scenario, my offer still stands.  Let me know and I'll PM my team.

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Re: kevkev60614 (Fire) - nilsieboy (Water) *forfeit https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16020.msg205267#msg205267
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2010, 03:56:20 pm »
As I've mentioned, I'm in a car right now.  I have access to forums but not chat or game.

DD, last night I offered to have a teammate sub so long as we can use six upped cards and get full salvage.  You elected to give me the win instead.  Why the change of heart?  If you're comfortable with that subbing scenario, my offer still stands.  Let me know and I'll PM my team.
The change of heart is due to nilsie being in tournament last night for a small time, and for him being on for hours this morning. It no longer seems like :water is fully responsible for this timing issue

If acsabi hadn't come into chat just now, neither team would have won. They've already started without upped cards. If a member of team water had come last night, a sub might have been allowed to use upped cards due to the extreme circumstances.
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Re: kevkev60614 (Fire) - nilsieboy (Water) *forfeit https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16020.msg205284#msg205284
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2010, 04:18:04 pm »
I was on last night when nilsieboy was on.

I'm the sub for team fire.. he could have contacted me then.. and we could have played our game. :(

 

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