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hainkarga (Water sideboard) 3-2 (Light tinkerer) darklacerta9505 (sub) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65240.msg1270796#msg1270796
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Re: (Light Sub) darklacerta9505 3-2 hainkarga (Water sideboard) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65240.msg1270798#msg1270798
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2017, 08:55:31 pm »
Last game needs to be replayed.

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Removed NMs after first game. First game I won, I stole his shield, nymph+LS all his pends to dry him. The other one I was rushier. I still believe I won the last match, but we replayed it because my AI used steals on his pends and they insisted.

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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2017, 08:58:08 pm »
I hate nymph decks. About 7 good hands and 3 bad. Lose the 3 bad. Replat 5 of the good.
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2017, 09:02:48 pm »
Where is protect artifact elk used on last game ?
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Re: (Light Sub) darklacerta9505 3-2 hainkarga (Water sideboard) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65240.msg1270801#msg1270801
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2017, 09:08:09 pm »
there's the desync error symbol on your screenshot which can explain weird stuff happening.

Because elk forgot to post it, darklacerta was Tinkerer role.
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Shields and weapons receiving PA for no reason is a staple of desync errors, unfortunately.

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Re: (Light Sub) darklacerta9505 3-2 hainkarga (Water sideboard) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65240.msg1270804#msg1270804
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2017, 09:10:59 pm »
We need a replay game 5. The pa we thought existed must have been a desynch error.
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2017, 09:11:12 pm »
there's the desync error symbol on your screenshot which can explain weird stuff happening.

Because elk forgot to post it, darklacerta was Tinkerer role.

So if this is indeed due to desync, we need to replay this as I lost only due to PA.
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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2017, 09:23:10 pm »
We need a replay game 5. The pa we thought existed must have been a desynch error.

In any case this was the last match, I lost to AI since it PA shield, so we didn't replay this game and we made our posts. Only then I noticed he had no PA in his deck. This is why we need to replay this.
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« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2017, 12:55:50 pm »
The 5th game is voided since it was decided by the desync error (which was understandably not noticed, since light's deck could very likely had PA too).

This leaves the win to the more active party, which is clearly water here. Light had to resort to a sub, and were still unavailable to finish when the match got voided.

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Re: hainkarga (Water sideboard) 3-2 (Light tinkerer) darklacerta9505 (sub) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65240.msg1270849#msg1270849
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2017, 02:08:29 pm »
I might not have been clear enough in the last post. First, the activity win isn't the main factor here, I simply included it to show how the situation would go without the appealed game. I've been told that light was only available for sub on the last day. And history shows that though jijo was online after the desync was caught, he was unavailable to play and left till deadline. In such a condition the effort to play was clearly made by water.

And the main thing which solidifies the decision is that Water appealed the game 5a (the one before the desync error game), and it's a clear win for them from the screenshots. Other WMs might rule nymph games/early dcs a replay on principle, but if a game is decided at the point of dc then replay is just a waste of time. I wrote the rules to ensure that better gameplay is rewarded, and strategies such as nt aren't disadvantaged by the game's connections.

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