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Re: [Gravity sld] w4sh1ng7on 3 - 2 fippe94 [Death sld] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51957.msg1105303#msg1105303
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2013, 04:38:54 pm »
Never said it wasn't, you wasted a line. I'm just saying it's irrelevant.

I understand 1 pend is needed, but when you only have 4.. if you don't get that one pendulum minimum draw your turn pass to be at the very least turn 4 (draw turn 2, play pend, finish turn - finish turn 3, 4 entropy quanta, play disco in turn 4). Coincidentally this is how long it takes to play disco without any pendulum as well.

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Re: [Gravity sld] w4sh1ng7on 3 - 2 fippe94 [Death sld] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51957.msg1105304#msg1105304
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2013, 04:42:06 pm »
Did you just say that the number of turns to get out disco without at least pend is coincidentally the same as if you get no pends..?
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Re: [Gravity sld] w4sh1ng7on 3 - 2 fippe94 [Death sld] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51957.msg1105305#msg1105305
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2013, 04:42:46 pm »
No, I said that the amount of turns to get out disco without a pendulum in opening hand (I.e pend comes out at least turn 2) is the same to playing Disco if no pends come at all.

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Re: [Gravity sld] w4sh1ng7on 3 - 2 fippe94 [Death sld] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51957.msg1105314#msg1105314
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2013, 05:07:51 pm »
You guys misread what he wrote, if he draws correctly, then Fippe had no chance, this is right, because Fippe had no way to rush Fractal chargers with only some poisons.

Similarly, if Fippe draws "correctly" then 2nd turn Disco trolls.  Right?  It seems to me 3-2 either direction as a 'fair' (if that exists) result from this deck matchup.

Sadly, it went against Death here.  However, Aether OP!  *rues not using more Aether to counter Gravity's Aether!  ;)

Assuming perfect draws on both side, then gravity would still win, Discord can't stall a deck forever, but Dims can stop most of your damage for all the match, while you have nothing to stop Fractal Chargers/Guards from rushing you.
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Re: [Gravity sld] w4sh1ng7on 3 - 2 fippe94 [Death sld] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51957.msg1105318#msg1105318
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2013, 05:18:08 pm »
You guys misread what he wrote, if he draws correctly, then Fippe had no chance, this is right, because Fippe had no way to rush Fractal chargers with only some poisons.

Similarly, if Fippe draws "correctly" then 2nd turn Disco trolls.  Right?  It seems to me 3-2 either direction as a 'fair' (if that exists) result from this deck matchup.

Sadly, it went against Death here.  However, Aether OP!  *rues not using more Aether to counter Gravity's Aether!  ;)

Assuming perfect draws on both side, then gravity would still win, Discord can't stall a deck forever, but Dims can stop most of your damage for all the match, while you have nothing to stop Fractal Chargers/Guards from rushing you.

Cue the momo-flying-Disco?  ;)
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