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(Life Sideboard) Manuel 3 - 2 DoctorC (Darkness Upgrades) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65222.msg1270680#msg1270680
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Re: (Life Sideboard) Manuel 3 - 2 DoctorC (Darkness Upgrades) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65222.msg1270681#msg1270681
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Re: (Life Sideboard) Manuel 3 - 2 DoctorC (Darkness Upgrades) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65222.msg1270683#msg1270683
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2017, 03:28:22 pm »
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Re: (Life Sideboard) Manuel 3 - 2 DoctorC (Darkness Upgrades) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65222.msg1270685#msg1270685
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2017, 03:34:22 pm »
A bit disapointing to see that Life suggested a replay in game 3. From my understanding (Screenshot I saw) it was a sure win for darkness. DoctorC is unexperienced in pvp. A desynch don't mean it has to be replayed. Is it possible to see the winning screenshot of Team Life from game 3 please? Maybe this can clarify some things.
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Re: (Life Sideboard) Manuel 3 - 2 DoctorC (Darkness Upgrades) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65222.msg1270687#msg1270687
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2017, 04:12:03 pm »
Manuel played all games with the same deck?
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Re: (Life Sideboard) Manuel 3 - 2 DoctorC (Darkness Upgrades) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65222.msg1270690#msg1270690
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2017, 04:39:31 pm »
A bit disapointing to see that Life suggested a replay in game 3. From my understanding (Screenshot I saw) it was a sure win for darkness. DoctorC is unexperienced in pvp. A desynch don't mean it has to be replayed. Is it possible to see the winning screenshot of Team Life from game 3 please? Maybe this can clarify some things.

the wins was

1-0
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i lost game 3 lol, same for game 2 after a desynch giving the win to my opponent because i lost against ai when doctor c won
all the games replayed was because we both won against AI after the desynch, we never restarted a match for a desynch

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Re: (Life Sideboard) Manuel 3 - 2 DoctorC (Darkness Upgrades) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65222.msg1270691#msg1270691
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2017, 05:23:00 pm »
I know, that Game 3 was won by DoctorC but after a replay.
The game before was (from what I heard) under normal circumstances a win for Darkness. Ai heavily misplayed. I think it was a GPull thing. So game 3 should be the one you desynched and both won against ai. And game 4 should be the game you guys called game 3. The score should be then 3-1.

My point is that a replay in game 3 (when both won against ai) should be a win for Darkness due to a heavy misplay by ai. Under normal circumstances Manuel had no chance to win this game. So I wanted to see a screenshot if I am wrong or if I miss some more information. Sorry I am not at home and just on my phone.
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Re: (Life Sideboard) Manuel 3 - 2 DoctorC (Darkness Upgrades) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65222.msg1270692#msg1270692
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2017, 05:32:47 pm »
pretty boring this, wait play all games on the matches after ask to print of middle match game
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if happens game 4 and 5 was because both agreed to restart the duel ok?
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Re: (Life Sideboard) Manuel 3 - 2 DoctorC (Darkness Upgrades) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65222.msg1270693#msg1270693
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2017, 05:55:17 pm »
I was not included in the discussion during the game. So sorry to come with this thing after the match. I just want to figure out if a replay was necessary or not. I don't want to take your win just not sure if a replay was necessary when darkness was about to win. Life got a big profit by a misplay from ai. I mean if it was not necessary, this would be an unfair move. So do you wanna answer my question or copy/paste paragraphs from rules?  ;D
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Re: (Life Sideboard) Manuel 3 - 2 DoctorC (Darkness Upgrades) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65222.msg1270694#msg1270694
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both won? replay. nobody cares about AI misplay.
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Re: (Life Sideboard) Manuel 3 - 2 DoctorC (Darkness Upgrades) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65222.msg1270695#msg1270695
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2017, 06:02:56 pm »
Iirc it's replay unless it's completely obvious that no matter what one side would win if it applied even a hint of intelligence.

With that said it's a bit late if you call it out after playing games 4 and 5. Didn't we have this exact scenario at one point in W10?
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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2017, 06:25:24 pm »
My point is that a replay in game 3 (when both won against ai) should be a win for Darkness due to a heavy misplay by ai. Under normal circumstances Manuel had no chance to win this game. So I wanted to see a screenshot if I am wrong or if I miss some more information. Sorry I am not at home and just on my phone.



i don't really think he was able to do something even with unborrowed shriekers, the desynch wasn't in early game, didn't see any gp from him after the desynch

we are talking about a match i lost in the end, after i gave to my opponent 2 wins without asking screenshots
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