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[Gravity sld] w4sh1ng7on 3 - 2 fippe94 [Death sld] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51957.msg1105264#msg1105264
« on: October 23, 2013, 01:54:31 pm »
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Game 1: Loss I started with only three pillars, he used Disk on turn 3 and could no longer have mana aether to do anything.
Game 2: WinI won the money, but it started with many pillars. He came too slow, so I could have time to gather aether quanta to give fractal and win.
Game 3: Win Lighinting used bolt in his first spider, accumulated aether quanta and won.
Game 4: Loss I started with 6 pillars, and two shields. during the game came lightnings, and + shields, 1 fractal and several pillars, but the whole game did not come any creature, and qdo the last shell was over, he went 6 creatures and killed me.
Game 5: WinHe began with several pillars, one dragon and some poison. During the game did not come any more into it, and I accumulated shields, how much, and then Elite Charger with fractal to win.

great deck chosen by general and lieutenant gravity, depends somewhat on RNG, but coming correctly my opponent had no chance.
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Re: [Gravity sld] w4sh1ng7on 3 - 2 fippe94 [Death sld] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51957.msg1105265#msg1105265
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2013, 01:56:51 pm »
GGS, it was very close.

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Re: [Gravity sld] w4sh1ng7on 3 - 2 fippe94 [Death sld] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51957.msg1105273#msg1105273
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2013, 02:18:01 pm »
"but coming correctly my opponent had no chance"

Mind explaining this further?
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Re: [Gravity sld] w4sh1ng7on 3 - 2 fippe94 [Death sld] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51957.msg1105276#msg1105276
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2013, 02:24:54 pm »
"but coming correctly my opponent had no chance"

Mind explaining this further?

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If he drew the combo, he would win.

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Re: [Gravity sld] w4sh1ng7on 3 - 2 fippe94 [Death sld] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51957.msg1105277#msg1105277
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2013, 02:25:35 pm »
If I did Dim chain, the deck Fippe94 could not win. Did not want to disparage the Fippe, the matches were balanced as I said, but because of the RNG, both decks do not allow the player to make much difference.


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Re: [Gravity sld] w4sh1ng7on 3 - 2 fippe94 [Death sld] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51957.msg1105278#msg1105278
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2013, 02:32:08 pm »
"but coming correctly my opponent had no chance"

Mind explaining this further?

Language barrier...

If he drew the combo, he would win.

In which case I would amend it to "if he draws the combo and all four of opponents Discords hide towards bottom of deck then he will win".


If I did Dim chain, the deck Fippe94 could not win. Did not want to disparage the Fippe, the matches were balanced as I said, but because of the RNG, both decks do not allow the player to make much difference.

Somewhat true - Dim does not stop the Poison though.  As always, the AI could be misplaying one, both, or neither deck here but simulator gives 50/50 on a 3,000 game run just now.  This would not indicate "no chance" especially considering the 2-3 final score.
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Re: [Gravity sld] w4sh1ng7on 3 - 2 fippe94 [Death sld] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51957.msg1105281#msg1105281
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2013, 02:51:34 pm »
Things with sim: Ai fails with fractal, hard.  Secondly, unupped poison is really not that scary.  Once a dim is out (barring discord fail, but with 15 quanta sources that should work fine), you easily have a couple turns to draw the fractal/charger and then essentially TTK.  Also, that deck looks like it probably has a fairly slow discord, which gives the aforementioned 15 quanta a lot of time to accumulate as a buffer.
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Re: [Gravity sld] w4sh1ng7on 3 - 2 fippe94 [Death sld] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51957.msg1105282#msg1105282
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2013, 02:54:06 pm »
The flip coin and amount of initial pillars made ​​a difference in those games.

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Re: [Gravity sld] w4sh1ng7on 3 - 2 fippe94 [Death sld] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51957.msg1105289#msg1105289
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2013, 03:28:43 pm »
You guys misread what he wrote, if he draws correctly, then Fippe had no chance, this is right, because Fippe had no way to rush Fractal chargers with only some poisons.
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Re: [Gravity sld] w4sh1ng7on 3 - 2 fippe94 [Death sld] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51957.msg1105297#msg1105297
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2013, 04:02:01 pm »
You guys misread what he wrote, if he draws correctly, then Fippe had no chance, this is right, because Fippe had no way to rush Fractal chargers with only some poisons.

Similarly, if Fippe draws "correctly" then 2nd turn Disco trolls.  Right?  It seems to me 3-2 either direction as a 'fair' (if that exists) result from this deck matchup.

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Re: [Gravity sld] w4sh1ng7on 3 - 2 fippe94 [Death sld] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51957.msg1105298#msg1105298
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2013, 04:12:59 pm »
It doesn't really matter, he just expressed himself incorrectly. Gee.

You guys should worry more about fielding a disco deck with only 4 pends (wat) and the fact you just gave Gravity a few Disco.

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Re: [Gravity sld] w4sh1ng7on 3 - 2 fippe94 [Death sld] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51957.msg1105300#msg1105300
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2013, 04:21:06 pm »
It doesn't really matter, he just expressed himself incorrectly. Gee.

You guys should worry more about fielding a disco deck with only 4 pends (wat) and the fact you just gave Gravity a few Disco.

Anyway.

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