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(Darkness) Kael Hate 2 - (Water) Bluesky for Essence 0 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15516.msg198734#msg198734
« on: November 11, 2010, 01:27:59 pm »
Duel has been Declared. 2-0 my favor.

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Below are the game occuringissues.


Currently the resolved matches are 1 to me.

We've had various timeouts while I was ahead.
Bluesky claims that he has a bad connection.
Will try to resolve this tomorrow night.

G1 - Timeout Bluesky
G2 - Win Kael
G3 - Timeout Bluesky
G4 - Timeout Bluesky (Clear Win advantage by me Screenshot Below)
G5 - Timeout Bluesky (Clear Win advantage by me Screenshot Below)

Note - Second screenshot shows a game flaw where done button occurs in your opponents turn. Unknown Why. I had just sent him a msg saying "tick tick tick" wanting him to hurry up. It was presumptuous to say "win" by me because I beat the AI in the next 2 turns or so. I admit that this means nothing conclusive and have changed my note to reflect as such.

Has anbody seen some many timeouts between Kong Elements and .com elements?

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Re: (Darkness) Kael Hate 1 - (Water) Bluesky for Essence 0 ***UNRESOLVED*** https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15516.msg198774#msg198774
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2010, 02:46:20 pm »
mhh...
if the connection is so bad,
having the second game subbed by another water member could be an option....

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Re: (Darkness) Kael Hate 1 - (Water) Bluesky for Essence 0 ***UNRESOLVED*** https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15516.msg198780#msg198780
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2010, 02:53:35 pm »
desyncs and time-outs usually mean re-game but  like i said in chat, screenshots clearly show Kael is winning
not once, but both times

now its up to the WMs for the final verdict

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Re: (Darkness) Kael Hate 1 - (Water) Bluesky for Essence 0 ***UNRESOLVED*** https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15516.msg198782#msg198782
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2010, 02:59:14 pm »
Well screenshots only work if you could make a deathblow that round.

Looking at the first screenshot, its not on the deathblow, so will not work for proving victory.  Looking at the second screenshot, Kael is the clear winner that turn if no desync.  Based on this, I say Kael should win the match 2-0.

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Re: (Darkness) Kael Hate 1 - (Water) Bluesky for Essence 0 ***UNRESOLVED*** https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15516.msg198786#msg198786
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2010, 03:08:33 pm »
Well screenshots only work if you could make a deathblow that round.

Looking at the first screenshot, its not on the deathblow, so will not work for proving victory.  Looking at the second screenshot, Kael is the clear winner that turn if no desync.  Based on this, I say Kael should win the match 2-0.
its not a clear win on G4, true but Kael has answers to just about anything they might throw down
we dont know for sure (at least until the decklist is revealed to public) but the only crippling thing they could do is AM that gargoyle which then can be neutered by lightning
the second one (G5) is indeed hard evidence that kael is winning

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Re: (Darkness) Kael Hate 1 - (Water) Bluesky for Essence 0 ***UNRESOLVED*** https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15516.msg198787#msg198787
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2010, 03:11:37 pm »
Well screenshots only work if you could make a deathblow that round.

Looking at the first screenshot, its not on the deathblow, so will not work for proving victory.  Looking at the second screenshot, Kael is the clear winner that turn if no desync.  Based on this, I say Kael should win the match 2-0.
Technically the second screenshot isn't 100% either.  Bluesky could have a number of cards that'd prolong death by a turn.  RT, steal, deflag, lightning, shockwave, freeze and others.

That said if I were in Bluesky's shoes I probably would've just given Kael the win.  Why prolong it?

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Re: (Darkness) Kael Hate 1 - (Water) Bluesky for Essence 0 ***UNRESOLVED*** https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15516.msg198789#msg198789
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2010, 03:24:32 pm »
Technically the second screenshot isn't 100% either.  Bluesky could have a number of cards that'd prolong death by a turn.  RT, steal, deflag, lightning, shockwave, freeze and others.

That said if I were in Bluesky's shoes I probably would've just given Kael the win.  Why prolong it?
well you could say the same to every SS with similar situation

fact of the matter is that, our deck > theirs
if bluesky cant manned up and admit defeat... and WMs rule it as re-game, we'll just crush them again unless luck fall on their side (with however small chance they've got) and they manage to eek out 2 wins

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Re: (Darkness) Kael Hate 1 - (Water) Bluesky for Essence 0 ***UNRESOLVED*** https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15516.msg198790#msg198790
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2010, 03:25:43 pm »
Technically the second screenshot isn't 100% either.  Bluesky could have a number of cards that'd prolong death by a turn.  RT, steal, deflag, lightning, shockwave, freeze and others.

That said if I were in Bluesky's shoes I probably would've just given Kael the win.  Why prolong it?
well you could say the same to every SS with similar situation

fact of the matter is that, our deck > theirs
if bluesky cant manned up and admit defeat... and WMs rule it as re-game, we'll just crush them again unless luck fall on their side (with however small chance they've got) and they manage to eek out 2 wins
you don't even know the deck ;)
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Re: (Darkness) Kael Hate 1 - (Water) Bluesky for Essence 0 ***UNRESOLVED*** https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15516.msg198791#msg198791
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2010, 03:26:25 pm »
Technically the second screenshot isn't 100% either.
The second screenshot is on Keal's turn.  Kael has out 31 damage and bluesky has 28 hp.  Kael would win on next spacebar

I'd rater :darkness not win, but Kael clearly earned this one.

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Re: (Darkness) Kael Hate 1 - (Water) Bluesky for Essence 0 ***UNRESOLVED*** https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15516.msg198794#msg198794
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2010, 03:33:32 pm »
There is one thing I don't understand :On screenshot #2 why is timer counting down for Bluesky if it is Kaels turn ? I  mean if it was Kaels turn why he just did not kill him before that counter started to count down red numbers ? I thougth it only happens on your opponents turn, not your own- I mean how can  your opponent not respond if it is your turn ?

Other then that it is clear  victory for Kael.

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Re: (Darkness) Kael Hate 1 - (Water) Bluesky for Essence 0 ***UNRESOLVED*** https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15516.msg198796#msg198796
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2010, 03:34:07 pm »
you don't even know the deck ;)
yeah, and i didnt know what kind of deck you guys gonna put vs me but oh look, total domination
I R psychic!
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on a more serious note, i may not know but kael have faced the deck 5 times, each time having a bit more info on what blues using so yeah, you think you can top that?
or maybe blue is just waiting for the best topdeck to actually manage a win?

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Re: (Darkness) Kael Hate 1 - (Water) Bluesky for Essence 0 ***UNRESOLVED*** https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15516.msg198836#msg198836
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2010, 05:31:52 pm »
Technically the second screenshot isn't 100% either.
The second screenshot is on Keal's turn.  Kael has out 31 damage and bluesky has 28 hp.  Kael would win on next spacebar

I'd rater :darkness not win, but Kael clearly earned this one.
^^ This.  2nd screenshot is a won game.

Nothing is more frustrating than desyncs in games that count for something.  Good games guys.

 

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