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Re: (UW) LongDono 1 vs ( Aether ) Pikachufan2164 0 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27692.msg354494#msg354494
« Reply #36 on: June 21, 2011, 03:48:04 pm »
For the 2nd time, I never said anything about RNG. Because you guys don't seem to understand what I meant by royally screwed, I will spell it out for you.

In each desync, Pika said he never encountered 1 deflag. So, after 5 games of no deflags, he assumed you didn't have any. Had the desyncs never occurred, Pika would have been more suspicious of deflags, and he would have played a dim shield 2 turns earlier (had 2 or 3 in hand), which would have prevented the OTK after deflag. Thus Pika got royally screwed because the desyncs altered his playing style against this deck. In testing, Pika went 9-1 against a very very similar deck but with 2 deflags instead of 1 (AI played MA, pika played rainbow).

I hope you understand now that RNG did not determine the outcome of this match. Despite the amazing draw sevs had and the poor one that pika had, Pika still could have won if he didn't misplay his hand due to the influence of the desyncs. This is different than LD's match with Higs because that match could have gone either way, whereas pika never should have lost this one.
Not going to lie, we got extremely lucky. On another note, I think everyone here should be concentrating on other aspects of war instead of past matches. with the 1 deflag we knew we had to get as much damage as possible then wait for the deflag. we have about a little over 50% chance of drawing that deflag. our odds were not terrible but very low for everything to go right.
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Re: (UW) LongDono 1 vs ( Aether ) Pikachufan2164 0 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27692.msg354497#msg354497
« Reply #37 on: June 21, 2011, 04:04:29 pm »
For the 2nd time, I never said anything about RNG. Because you guys don't seem to understand what I meant by royally screwed, I will spell it out for you.

In each desync, Pika said he never encountered 1 deflag. So, after 5 games of no deflags, he assumed you didn't have any. Had the desyncs never occurred, Pika would have been more suspicious of deflags, and he would have played a dim shield 2 turns earlier (had 2 or 3 in hand), which would have prevented the OTK after deflag. Thus Pika got royally screwed because the desyncs altered his playing style against this deck. In testing, Pika went 9-1 against a very very similar deck but with 2 deflags instead of 1 (AI played MA, pika played rainbow).

I hope you understand now that RNG did not determine the outcome of this match. Despite the amazing draw sevs had and the poor one that pika had, Pika still could have won if he didn't misplay his hand due to the influence of the desyncs. This is different than LD's match with Higs because that match could have gone either way, whereas pika never should have lost this one.
Well pika must not have been paying attention because I did play deflags before. Sounds like a self screw to me, and I did not know that pika thought we had no deflags, I thought he knew that we had atleast 1. Thus you can understand why I think your blaming RNG.
RNG did not determine the match and yet it is partly due to bad and good draws from both players? I am sorry but I don't understand you at this point...
I played a deflag, pika did not remember.
Also bad and good draws sound like RNG.

I am just pointing things out here....

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Re: (UW) LongDono 1 vs ( Aether ) Pikachufan2164 0 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27692.msg354501#msg354501
« Reply #38 on: June 21, 2011, 04:28:59 pm »
@ Long don't push it further. It seems like every match we play becomes some damn drama fest. If you refuse to respond, an argument cannot occur. it takes 2 people. I cant really ask anything of deuce because he is not on my team.

I understand frustration and the RNG. it hits hard at times.


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Re: (UW) LongDono 1 vs ( Aether ) Pikachufan2164 0 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27692.msg354505#msg354505
« Reply #39 on: June 21, 2011, 04:38:00 pm »
RNG did not determine the match and yet it is partly due to bad and good draws from both players? I am sorry but I don't understand you at this point...
I played a deflag, pika did not remember.
Also bad and good draws sound like RNG.

I am just pointing things out here....
Christ LD, you have to be the densest person on elements. Either that, or you don't have very good reading comprehension. I said DESPITE the draws, pika should have still won the match with sevs. Thus no RNG, the loss was due to a misplay (I think I said this twice in my previous post...facepalm). Also, I have no idea if pika saw 1 deflag or not in the 5 or 6 desyncs, I am just reporting what I've been told.

 

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